Hello Krister and other Viphone-listers, I got information on Ibeacon-development from Mr. Ilkka Pirttimaa. Ilkka is developer of the BlindSquare orientation app. So some testing of Ibeacon goes on in Helsinki. Homepage: www.blindsquare.com
Please, see below what Ilkka wrote today: Hi! That is "kind of true" that how to make iBeacon tech scale is sort of a problem. That's why I have implemented very simplistic way to use them, so that with minimal possible amount of iBeacons we can gain much improved accessibility indoors. We have implemented 1/3 of the shopping mall in Finland, one 3 store building in Canada (CNIB HQ), another in NewZealand (BlindFoundation HQ), 14 Tim Hortons restaurants (http://www.cnib.ca/en/news/Pages/20151005_CNIB-Ontario-partners-with-BlindSquare-and-Tim-Hortons.aspx) and are now building natural science museum in US. We are also going to start at least 3 installations in Finland shortly. Right now I'm in Belgiium to look for options to start here. We will train orientation&mobility teachers to be certified installation partners, but it takes some time to train this kind of knowledge. Regardless of accessibility needs, iBeacons are installed around the world for other purposes. One of the biggest manufacturers of iBeacons, Kontakt.io, released a program called Beacons For Good (http://kontakt.io/blog/beacons-for-good-is-kontakt-ios-way-of-giving-back/). Idea there is that if premises owner who buys beacons offers them also to be used by other apps (like BlindSquare), they get discount. They also have a web site (http://beaconsforgood.org/) where anyone can suggest where beacons would make a difference, and 4 times / year one of voted places will get 100 beacons for free. Best, Ilkka With regards, Matti 2015-10-26 12.04 UTC+01.00, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com>: > Hi there, > I am very pessimistic about this and it’s based on experience. > This project is stone dead already depending on a couple factors: > 1, global availability, it’s probably only available in the States right now > and if it expands beyond that it’s to the ”countries that count” that’s the > UK, Germany, France, China and so on. I don’t think it will make it to > Scandinavia. > Secondly it depends apparently on devices people have to set up and i’m > sorry but this isn’t going to happen, not only for disabled or blind folks. > If they can’t use beacons to transfer ads or something to you through your > phone, or anything else that benefits other than disabled people they don’t > care about putting those things up and much less maintain them, why should > they, it doesn’t benefit them. (with ”they” and ”them” in this case i mean > people who have responsibility for shops and other buildings) > /Krister > >> 26 okt. 2015 kl. 03:29 skrev Mich Verrier <mi...@eastlink.ca>: >> >> yes i agree. it is another thing that sounds good on papor but i am not >> shure if it would be able to be used in a practul place at least not with >> out spending alot of money to do it. from Mich. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Billy Maynard <mailto:biljm...@comcast.net> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 10:24 PM >>> Subject: Re: Seems like dream comes true. Navigation for the Blind >>> >>> hi, >>> >>> I looked at this and it sounds great but, it's really sortof useless >>> unless they make the beacons and sensers everywhere and used everywhere. >>> it's sortof like the ibeacon project. Hope something like this does >>> become universaly used everywhere but, it seems like it might be limited >>> to those that want to put the beacons and sensers in there fasilities. >>> >>> If I mis-understood please corect me and I'm not trying to be pesamistic. >>> >>> Billy Maynard >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Dr. Harshit Jaithwar <mailto:hary.ru...@gmail.com> >>>> To: viphone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 9:04 PM >>>> Subject: Seems like dream comes true. Navigation for the Blind >>>> >>>> Hi, Got from another list. Navigation for the Blind. Can't stop me to >>>> post this amazing app video link, also there's a official project link >>>> if someone wants to visit to get more information. >>>> >>>> I think, life would be really very easy after this. 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