I hope is just a roomor and apple doesn't get rid of the head phone jack. I use my head phones all of the time.
Margaret Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Dec 2015, at 11:52 AM, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes me too! Don't take away the headphone jack! Here in Mexico, where > Apple-specific adapters and the like are expensive, and sometimes hard to > come by since there's no Apple Store as of yet, there's nothing better to > grab any earphones and away connect them to my phone! > > El 01/12/2015 10:59 a.m., 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone escribió: >> >> Hi Jonathan, >> >> I agree totally with what you're saying and will certainly be watching this >> space with interest. If anyone hears anything else which they consider to be >> credible, One way or the other, I am sure we will all want to know. >> Obviously, if they are going to take it away then we want the opportunity to >> shout loud and long! :) Carol P >> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille >> >> On 1 Dec 2015, at 4:10 p.m., Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: >> >> Hi Mary, yes, when it comes to mobile phones at least, I must confess to >> feeling increasingly trapped. >> There are excellent alternative tablets and computers, but it's the phone >> that it's tricky to find an alternative for. >> Jonathan Mosen >> Mosen Consulting >> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >> http://Mosen.org >> >>> On 2/12/2015, at 5:02 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Jonathan, >>> I saw the same article you did in mac rumors. I admit that I have not been >>> trolling the Apple forums or the MacRumors comment sections, so I do not >>> know what the public reaction to that story has been. But, while I am not >>> hearing impaired, I absolutely join you in your condemnation of this >>> possibility. We don't need thinner iPhones. We just don't. And 1 mm? Who is >>> going to notice one stinking millimeter? For that, Apple will make me buy >>> some stupid little connector to use my headphones >>> with? And they will probably charge $30 for it even though the parts cost >>> them five. And then when I lose said connector, which is almost inevitable, >>> I will get to buy another one. This just looks like a cheap crappy trick >>> for Apple to make more money off of people who are willing to keep paying >>> top dollar for increasingly shoddy products. If they did this, and android >>> weren't such a mess in some fairly fundamental ways for blind screen >>> reader users, I would really consider switching to android. But, web >>> browsing and continuous reading and some other things are still so bad on >>> that platform that such a switch is untenable if you want to use your >>> device efficiently. My opinion only of course. >>> Mary >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, I waited a few days to see if this issue might be raised by >>>> someone else. But I'll raise it here myself, because I'm not sure whether >>>> Apple may be flying a kite here and seeing what reaction this idea gets. >>>> >>>> There's an unconfirmed rumour from a source that has in the past been >>>> credible, that the next generation iPhone will not include a headphone >>>> jack, so Apple can make the phone thinner. >>>> I'm pasting a blog post that I wrote and published on this subject 72 >>>> hours ago. Here goes. >>>> >>>> I like thin, lightweight technology, but it isn’t the only criterion that >>>> determines what I use. If thin and light doesn’t give me the performance I >>>> need, I’m happy to choose something heavier or bigger. >>>> >>>> When the iPhone 6 Plus came out, I bought one. Initially, it seemed >>>> absolutely enormous, and I thought I’d never >>>> get used to it. Now I’m on the 6s Plus and would never go back to a >>>> smaller iPhone. The battery life and the bigger screen for Braille screen >>>> input make it the right choice for me. >>>> >>>> After being a MacBook Air user for three years, I recently bought a >>>> 15-inch MacBook Pro with all the specs maxed out. It includes 16GB of RAM >>>> and 1TB solid state storage. >>>> >>>> Compared to my MacBook Air, the Pro feels heavy and thick, and I’ve >>>> therefore given it the nickname “The Big Kahuna”. But it fits in my >>>> backpack just fine when I travel, it isn’t really that arduous to take >>>> places, and the thing is, it goes like a rocket. I enjoy having OS X for a >>>> few apps and functions, but Windows is still my primary operating system. >>>> With a laptop this fast and powerful, I can run JAWS in a virtual machine >>>> with superb results, and still tend to iMessages and FaceTime calls. >>>> >>>> Sometimes I pick up my old MacBook Air and think, “oy, what have I done? >>>> This thing is so cute!” But the performance factor soon reminds me that I >>>> made the right decision for my particular needs. >>>> >>>> There’s plenty of choice of form factor in the MacBook line now. If you >>>> want to go ultra-portable, there’s the new 12-inch retina MacBook, which >>>> is just adorably thin and light, with compromises to match. It sports a >>>> single USB type C port, which is the only way both to connect peripherals >>>> to it and charge it. And the keyboard is, to put it charitably, an >>>> acquired taste. >>>> >>>> So when it comes to Mac, Apple now has a line-up that can meet the needs >>>> of the road warrior who wants something really light for a bit of word >>>> processing, email and web surfing, all the way to someone who needs plenty >>>> of grunt and is willing to lug it around. >>>> >>>> There is not so much flexibility in the iPhone stable, where there are >>>> usually now two current models with similar specs but different screen >>>> sizes. So when I read a rumour that Apple may dispense with the 3.5mm >>>> headphone jack in iPhone 7 models, it had me concerned. >>>> >>>> Before I explain why, let me be clear that Apple itself has made no >>>> official statement about the future of the headphone jack. It’s only a >>>> rumour. But I read a lot of technology sources, and have come to know >>>> which sources tend to be more reliable. The source of this story, the >>>> Japanese technology site Mac Otakara, has a good track record. No news >>>> site that reports things like this gets it right 100% of the time though. >>>> It’s also possible that Apple wants to monitor customer reaction to the >>>> idea, by letting it leak. But there’s no doubt that decisions as >>>> fundamental as this are being taken now, or probably have already been >>>> taken. >>>> >>>> You can read an English summary of the story at Mac Rumours. >>>> >>>> Even if the story is wrong, and I hope it is, I want to write a defence of >>>> the headphone jack for those who think its loss wouldn’t be a big deal. >>>> Some of us really, genuinely need it. >>>> >>>> The story suggests that the 3.5mm headphone jack will be dispensed with, >>>> because it’s preventing Apple from making the iPhone thinner. If they >>>> removed the jack, they could shave more than 1mm off the thickness of the >>>> phone. >>>> >>>> If this rumour is correct, Apple would probably include Earpods with a >>>> Lightning connector, since specs for headphones that use the Lightning >>>> port have been available since 2014. >>>> >>>> According to the story, the Lightning port would include a digital to >>>> analogue converter, so you’d still be able to connect 3.5mm headphones. >>>> There is no word in the story that this Lightning port would be in >>>> addition to the one already on iPhones, >>>> implying that you’ll have one port for both charging your device and >>>> listening to wired headphones or connecting the device to a mixer. >>>> >>>> My first objection to this rumour is a philosophical one. 3.5mm headphone >>>> jacks are ubiquitous. The standard is supported by a massive number of >>>> manufacturers. It would be sad if Apple required its users to carry a >>>> proprietary adapter, probably sold separately, to connect standard >>>> equipment to their single proprietary port. But they’ve done this before. >>>> Even on my maxed out MacBook Pro, I have to buy a special adapter just to >>>> connect to wired Ethernet. >>>> >>>> My remaining concerns relate to functionality. As a hearing-aid wearer, I >>>> use my iPhone with a cable between the headphone jack and my hearing aids >>>> about 95% of the time. There’s no latency >>>> because it’s analogue all the way, and since no Bluetooth is involved, >>>> it’s energy efficient in terms of hearing aid battery usage. The Lightning >>>> to analogue adapter would be one additional device to carry, use and >>>> potentially lose, and it would mean that I couldn’t use my iPhone in the >>>> way that is optimal for me while I’m charging it. There’s also the >>>> possibility that the digital to analogue converter may introduce latency. >>>> That wouldn’t be important for most tasks, but it would be detrimental to >>>> all VoiceOver users who use 3.5mm devices, not just hearing aid wearers. >>>> >>>> But there’s always Bluetooth, and that’s the way the world is going, >>>> right? There may be a few exceptions, but the majority >>>> of Bluetooth audio I’ve used on iOS is laggy with VoiceOver, >>>> Apple’s built-in screen reader for blind people like me, that I find it a >>>> frustrating, sub-optimal experience. Streamers for hearing aid wearers >>>> often power down very quickly after VoiceOver has stopped speaking, to >>>> save energy. This means that hearing aid wearers >>>> who use VoiceOver with Bluetooth streamers often must cope with missing >>>> the first second or two of what VoiceOver is saying, as the Bluetooth >>>> streamer powers up after detecting audio. If you’re taking a phone call or >>>> listening to music, that’s no big deal, but for a VoiceOver user, it’s not >>>> a good experience. And Bluetooth streamers chew through hearing aid >>>> batteries faster than an analogue connection, imposing additional costs on >>>> hearing aid wearers. >>>> >>>> Taking hearing impairment out of the mix, >>>> there are many people who use the 3.5mm jack, and want to do so while >>>> charging their device. Bonnie, for example, has a pillow speaker, because >>>> she likes the radio on at night. It plugs into her iPhone while it’s >>>> charging. >>>> >>>> We may be about to see a similar controversy with iPhone to the one that >>>> greeted the new MacBook’s single USB C port >>>> and all the inconveniences that go with that. When that controversy was at >>>> its peak, proponents said that Apple often likes to move the tech agenda >>>> forward, and that they’re uniquely positioned to do that by making “bold” >>>> decisions like this. Sorry, I don’t consider a single port for peripherals >>>> and charging a bold decision. It’s just a pain. If you want to use >>>> multiple devices, you have to buy some sort of hub, which detracts from >>>> the convenience of having an all-in-one device. >>>> >>>> I realise that as a VoiceOver user with a hearing impairment passionate >>>> about getting the most optimal audio experience, I’m a minority within a >>>> minority. But if this rumour proves to be true, it will be my queue to >>>> seriously examine other mobile options. I really don’t want a phone one >>>> more millimetre thinner, when it’s going to create an experience for me >>>> that would be poorer. >>>> >>>> >>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>> Mosen Consulting >>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>> http://Mosen.org >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - >>>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 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