Interesting how one sometimes doesn't think of the easy answers, but this one 
sure makes sense. I'll bring this up with Sonos.


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible

Hi, 

What about headphones without a mic, then the standard mic would get used?

Cheers,
Brett.


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible

Hi Jim,

Yes, but TruePlay is listening to what the microphone picks up and I believe 
this has to be the external microphone since the microphone on the headset 
doesn't pick up noise/sound the same way as the external microphone. So while 
plugging in a headset would get rid of Voiceover interference, it would also 
route any listening to the headset microphone.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
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Jim Ruby
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible

I would think if one used headphones there would be none.



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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible

Hi again, Brett,

If you do get a set of Play 3 or whatever and figure out the TruePlay let me 
know your experience. I'll definitely bring this up with Sonos again to see if 
they can't figure out a way around the Voiceover interference.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Brett
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 1:23 AM
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Subject: RE: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible

Hi,

I do see myself changing them regularly between the bedroom, kitchin, sunroom 
and the carport. 

If their trueplay works as well as the inaccessible one did on my home theoter 
system that just died, it would be a shame not to be able to use it. That's why 
I am wondering if the instructions that are given are randomised according to 
the current acoustics, or if a regular patton is used. I would suspect that it 
would just be a regular patton. If so, if we could find out what the patton is, 
we could at least give it a try and see if it improves the sound, if not, you 
can revert the changes. 

Cheers,
Brett.


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 1:25 AM
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Subject: RE: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible

Hi Brett, Krister and Jim,

As long as you don't change the position of your speakers doing the TruePlay 
tuning is a one-time process so it would be very easy to do if you asked a 
sighted friend or family member to help doing this. Once it's done it does not 
interfere with Voiceover in any way.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Brett
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 2:39 AM
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Subject: Re: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible

I am just about to set the house up with Sonos, I am wondering if it is 
possible to find out where the True Play button is on screen, then toggle 
VoiceOver offf and activate it? If so, we would just need to know the order of 
the instructions that Sonos gives and we may at least have a work around to do 
this independantly. 

I had to have help to do this with saround sound systems I have had in the past 
and it did make a huge difference. It would be a shame if we couldn't find a 
work around to do this independantly, especially when you can easily move Sonos 
speakers from room to room. 

Any input will be greatly appreciated. 

Cheers, Brett. 

Sent from Brett's iPhone

> On 8 Dec 2015, at 6:31 PM, Jim Ruby <j...@blindsea.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes voiceover interfears with how true play works. Wish they could enable it 
> though and one could use a headphone with it. Did not get to try that before 
> they disabled it when voiceover was running.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 9:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible
> 
> That is correct, I have been beta testing for Sonos for some years now and 
> TruePlay is not currently supported when Voiceover is running.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robin Frost
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 2:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible
> 
> Hi,
> I can confirm your experience. From what I'm told this is normal behavior for 
> now.
> I've been told that they haven't figured how to get it to work properly 
> without VoiceOver interfering with it. So the app detects when VoiceOver is 
> running and the button for it is hidden.
> If this isn't fully accurate or if there's been an update I'm sure others who 
> know more than do I will chime in and elaborate.  I hope this helps.
> Robin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 5:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: In Sonos, the Trueplay settings button seems to be inaccessible
> 
> Hello folks,
> As you probably know, at least you who have Sonos, they recently introduced a 
> feature they call ”True play” which apparently is some kind of compensation 
> for the room in which your Sonos player is. This feature has a setting where 
> you set the Trueplay thingy up, only this feature isn’t accessible. I can not 
> see the button for it at all. It’s supposed to be under the room setting and 
> EQ but it isn’t accessible. This is on the iPhone in the Sonos app.
> Could anyone confirm this or tell if there’s a workaround of some sort?
> /Krister
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