Hi robin, Please tell me more…
I would love to hear why you disagree with me in this regard. Perhaps I can learn something I do not know on this. Thanks so much and do have a lovely weekend! Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:02 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: Cara, Great Assessment, but I disagreee with it as it pertains to Apple as it is run today. I do agree with your assessment of Apple under SteveJobs. At 03:17 PM 12/11/2015, you wrote: > Not sure if my last message on this topic actually made it to the list so > here goes once more, with feeling. :) > > Robin, I understand what you are saying here but honestly, though Steve most > certainly was of the philosophy that to make sure you gave people what they > want, simply tell them what they want. > > While this sounds incredibly obnoxious on the surface, Steve demonstrated > time and time again that despite this outward image, he definitely had his > finger on the pulse of what people actually would find helpful and useful in > their day-to-day lives. > > This in my opinion is why this sort of philosophy worked for Steve but not > for very many others. > > Mostly people try to guess what people want or to just assume that people > want what they, themselves, want. These attempts tend to have a spectacular > failure rate as we have seen. > > Steve was not arbitrary in anything he did so the products which came out of > Apple were also not arbitrary. Their design was for a reason, and for the > most part, I think there’s no denying that it worked well. > > Now however, in my view, I feel that Apple is acting as if Steve is still > around and displaying the kind of attitude that allowed. The problem with > this is that the kind of vision which Steve lent to Apple’s innovations > just isn’t there. So in my opinion, you end up with a lot of disconnected, > arbitrary product decisions which just don’t work together as well as they > might. > > This is of course, just my view, and I would welcome differing ones here as > well. If I am wrong on this one, please, by all means, show me how and I will > gladly listen. In this case at least, I would certainly love to be wrong. :) > > Thanks for reading and please do have a lovely weekend / holiday season! > > Cheers! > > Cara > --- > iOS design and development - LookTel.com > --- > View my Online Portfolio at: > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn > > Follow me on Twitter! > > https://twitter.com/ModelCara > > On Dec 11, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Correct Jonathan, Apple users are Lucky SteveJobs isn't in control because if > he intended to make the iPhone thinner, the HeadPhone Jack would be gone. > > Does anyone recall him (SteveJobs) saying people can have WhatEver color they > like, so long as its Black. > At 06:30 AM 12/10/2015, you wrote: > > Hi Scott, when it comes to Apple rumours, it's important to look at their > > source, and whether they have a track record of accuracy. We're seeing > > credible sources suggesting that Apple may be holding an event in March to > > launch the Apple Watch 2. Since the iPhone 6C if it eventuates would be > > using the same chips that are already being produced for iPhone 6s and 6s > > Plus, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that it will be launched > > then. If there is to be an iPhone 6c, Apple won't want it overshadowing the > > iPhone 7 announcements. Those phones will of course be the current screen > > sizes. > > As for the headphone jack issue and your comment that people are being bent > > out of shape about it, again it's important to consider how credible the > > source is. We know that Apple has been thinking about the issue because > > they patented their own proprietary headphone jack, and then they > > introduced specs for made for iPhone headphones that use the Lightning > > port. As you say, there is a pair of headphones with a Lightning connector > > in the Apple Store now. for 800 bucks. And the rumour has been deemed > > credible enough to have been commented on extensively by many respected > > technology news sites, including Cult of Mac, 9 to 5 Mac, Apple Insider, > > Beta News, CNet, and Mashable. Even CBS has picked it up. > > But there is one site remaining curiously and ominously silent. What I find > > deeply disappointing is that AppleVis has not said a thing about a topic > > which could have an enormous impact on the way blind people use their > > iPhones. It's not just hearing impaired people who will take a hit, but > > anyone who wants to use their iPhone with minimal latency and energy > > consumption, who appreciate being able to charge their phones while they > > also enjoy the privacy that the headphone jack affords. There is an > > important and unique use case here that Apple need to be made aware of > > before it's too late, and for AppleVis to remain silent when many other > > Apple blogs are speaking out is a gross dereliction of duty in my opinion. > > Why isn't this an AppleVis campaign of the month? Staying silent on such an > > important issue, when AppleVis could at least be encouraging users to > > complete the feedback form, is ostrich-like in the extreme. I think it's > > time users held AppleVis to account for its silence on this. > > Jonathan Mosen > > Mosen Consulting > > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > > http://Mosen.org > > > >> On 11/12/2015, at 3:06 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> > >> February? I doubt that. When was the last time an iPhone wasn't > >> released in the fall? > >> I think, like with the headphone rumor, getting all bent out of shape > >> is just not really going to help much. However, there could be more > >> reason for the headphone rumor to becoming closer to a reality since > >> Apple is now selling headphones with lightning connectors. SO while I > >> doubt it'll happen next year, it's certainly not out of the rehlm of > >> possibilities. I don't like the idea for a lot of reasons, one of them > >> being that, just like the 1 port Mac, which is stupid imho, this will > >> force me to carry around more crap if I need to use more than one port > >> at a time. It also means more stuff to charge, shorter battery life on > >> my phone, and the delay from VoiceOver. Maybe they'll just introduce > >> the lack of a headphone plug on the 6C, assuming that rumor is going > >> to come to pass, and see how it plays out. However, I'd say that the > >> 5C was not a success, so they may not bother. > >> > >> Scott > >> > >> On 12/9/15, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net > wrote: > >>> Actually I would love a smaller phone and if that particular rumor is > >>> true I > >>> > >>> will be thinking very much about upgrading to the 7. I like a phone which > >>> fits into the pocket on cargo pants when shopping, etc. so the larger > >>> phones > >>> > >>> just don't fit. And the less space I have to search around the screen for > >>> things the faster and more efficient I am. JMT. > >>> Marie > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Rajmund > >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:30 AM > >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors > >>> > >>> Hello, > >>> Yes, that was it. Glad we got it. :) > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> > >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:28 pm > >>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Well, in your original post you said "Not just the size, but it does > >>>> contribute. Price, and quality also contributes", and I'm not sure what > >>>> you meant by this. At first I thought you meant that a smaller iPhone > >>>> would be cheaper and of less quality, but now I'm thinking you mean that > >>>> size, quality and price figure into your decision in buying a new phone. > >>>> > >>>> In your last post you said "not sure which part, you have taken" which > >>>> also confuses me a bit, but I'm guessing you're saying you're not sure > >>>> which part of your message I didn't understand. > >>>> > >>>> Either way, I think we're all good now. > >>>> > >>>> On 09/12/15 00:06, Rajmund wrote: > >>>>> Hello, > >>>>> If apple comes up with a smaller phone, I would want it. So not sure > >>>>> which part, you have taken as I'm worried about it. Clarify, please? > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> > >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 2:21 am > >>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> First, I think the bending issue was much to do about nothing. I'm not > >>>>>> sure I understand the rest of your message, but a smaller iPhone won't > >>>>>> mean a low budget iPhone. If Apple does come out with a smaller > >>>>>> iPhone, > >>>>>> it'll still be a high quality top of the line smart phone. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 08/12/15 08:03, Rajmund wrote: > >>>>>>> Hello, > >>>>>>> One of the reasons of me not getting a 6 is the size. Not just the > >>>>>>> size, but it does contribute. Price, and quality also contributes. And > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm worried of it bending. It may not, but I'm worried about that, as > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> well. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>> From: terrie arnold <terrieiph...@me.com> > >>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:56 pm > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have heard of them comming back out with a small iphone the > >>>>>>>> size of the 5s , as I have heard that this size has been > >>>>>>>> requested since the larger 6s came out. I heard this on a tech > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> report on Fox and CNN > >>>>>>>> , so what do all of you think about this , would you get a > >>>>>>>> smaller phone , and thoes of you that are hanging on to the 5s, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 4s and some of the 3gs > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> My thoughts for today > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast made a few good points in his > >>>>>>>>> latest episode where he of course talked about this. Firstly, he > >>>>>>>>> mentioned that this rumour has not surfaced for the first time, I > >>>>>>>>> think it did also come up 2 years ago. Secondly, he mentioned that > >>>>>>>>> that the iPod Touch is almost 1 mm thinner than the 6S or 6S Plus > >>>>>>>>> and it still has a 3.5mm headphone jack. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:07 AM > >>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone seven rumors > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Well, I have said before and will say again that I think it is a > >>>>>>>>> stupid idea to trade off one millimeter of thickness for the > >>>>>>>>> headphone jack. I do not want an adapter. I do not want to pay for > >>>>>>>>> it, nor do I want to lose it, which is almost inevitable. And then I > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> would have to buy another one. I'm sure it won't be a two dollar > >>>>>>>>> item. And there's just no reason for it. 1 mm? Come on. If it were > >>>>>>>>> for some seriously good reason, OK. But 1 mm? This is just crazy. > >>>>>>>>> Mary > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I suspect this is going to happen, and I really don't see any > >>>>>>>>>> problem with buying an adapter for existing headphones to use to > >>>>>>>>>> plug into the lightning port. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Chip > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > >>>>>>>>>> On > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of nicholasacosta...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:49 PM > >>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: iPhone seven rumors > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone hello, as you all may know you might have heard > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> of some rumors claiming that the next iPhone will not have a > >>>>>>>>>> headphone jack.. So, this might not be a good thing for Apple to do > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> this. But, reports are also saying that they might use the > >>>>>>>>>> lightning connector that you use to charge the iPhone to use it as > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> a headphone jack. But, that means that in order for somebody's > >>>>>>>>>> headphones to fit into that Jack, they will need to support a > >>>>>>>>>> lightning connector for the headphones. I don't know what the > >>>>>>>>>> companies will think about this change if it happens. Remember, if > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> this rumor is true, please email Apple and tell them not to do > >>>>>>>>>> this. Also, people might think that if there wasn't a headphone > >>>>>>>>>> jack, we might still be able to use Bluetooth. But, this might not > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> be what somebody else lights. Having a headphone jack is better. > >>>>>>>>>> What will also happen to any Bluetooth speakers that people own? > >>>>>>>>>> These speakers might have a headphone jack connected to them and > >>>>>>>>>> might require that you plug > >>>> i > >>>>>> t into the headphone jack in order to use. I hope that Apple does not > >>>>>> make this move because it might not do any good for them. The iPhone > >>>>>> sales might go down. We would not want that to happen just because > >>>>>> Apple made this change. Please remember, the iPhone 7 is still in the > >>>>>> making and these are just rumors. As long as we tell Apple what we > >>>>>> want, who knows, they might listen to us. But, we can't just keep > >>>>>> quiet. 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