Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Gordan Radić]

Hi! Back in the days while I was a member of another blind iOS list one of the fellow members was trying to get some kind of wish list what would we all like to see in iOS 7 fro accessibility point of view. As far as I know, she never managed to compile the list and send it to Apple but the general idea is still worth a try. Perhaps we should gather the list of current issues and possible improovements on some petition site, sign it all together and send it to Apple. S poštovanjem Gordan Radić 28.12.2015. u 1:28, Rajmund je napisao/la: Hello, I'd rather they solved out the pitch issue first, really. ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, December 28, 2015 12:04 am Subject: Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous. I disagree that there's nothing Apple can do. Apple can definitely work with Nuance to get a toggle added as to whether abbreviations are expanded or not, and then Apple can include a setting for this toggle in VoiceOver settings. I suspect Apple has quite a bit of influence with Nuance, and Nuance would listen to Apple when it comes to a feature request.. I find it just an inconvenience myself, and I have other things I'd rather have Apple address which I consider a higher priority, so I wont' be dropping a note to Apple accessibility myself. On 27/12/15 17:08, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: I agree with Gordon. Unfortunately there's nothing Apple really can do, Nuance programs these voices. I'd bug them about it if it bothers you. On my end, I use Alex on my phone and he says things correctly. The only time he says gigabyte is if I put a number before it. For example, 2 gb. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com On Dec 27, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Paul Richard McGann <rkmcg...@comcast.net> wrote: to all, as the people at apple store and few officials for apple headquarters, they keep telling me that it is very important for al of you to notify apple accessibility team as team would give note to the engineers and developers who would follow your needs. I have given some suggestions for braille users, and also there are other things. plese don't hold back to yourself. open up and speak out to apple yourself. they need your help. it would be very helpful if yo share your views and your thoughts. it would be easier. remember the quote: you can see me but I can't see you...I can see you but you can't see me. same idea, apple officials don't know what you know and you don't know what they know. so please be more helpful. respectfully, rich -----Original Message----- From: Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous. I wrote Apple Accessibility about this earlier today. I'd suggest everyone who would like VoiceOver to stop guessing at abbreviations would write them as well and ask them to either stop it completely or provide an exception dictionary that we can use to fix pronunciations. Write to: accessibil...@apple.com \ Looking at baseball, AL for American League, gets pronounced Alabama. Cal as a first name gets pronounced California and so on. Richard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 2:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous. Hello Kevin, This happens to me, also. The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts, whose name is Al Jones. I couldn't find him until I realized that VoiceOver was pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones. I felt so stupid and then got a little miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much. I wonder if there is a workaround for this? (smile) Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous. Hi. I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs. I wanted to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay. I got there, and was selecting the feed I wanted. The app gives you updates about who has the ball, and where it is on the field. They use abbreviations for the teams. GB was used for Green Bay. I was navigating through the info on the screen, and was surprised to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25. I know whoever is programming VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish they'd just let abbreviations say their letters. VoiceOver isn't the only one who does this. I never knew, for example about Hartford, Court, or my Physician was Drive Johnson. Oh well, it is humorous in a way, but there is sometimes too much of a good thing. Just thought I'd share this observation. Have a good day, and don't work too hard. Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. 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