Hi,
For me it’s not the taking of the picture that’s the issue, for me it’s not 
being able to see how the picture turns out and correcting things that need to 
be corrected in the view finder already, things like ”did i get a picture at 
all or is it just a blank space” and so on.
/Krister

> 5 apr. 2016 kl. 19:06 skrev englishride...@gmail.com:
> 
> Judy Dixon has written a book on taking pictures if you're blind called "get 
> the Picture.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 9:08 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Actually, interesting.  I've attempted to take pictures of my cat, and send 
>> it through an iMessage, if you point the camera at the right angle, you can 
>> achieve something.  But, as you say, who would want to do it? Certainly not 
>> me.  Still, the option is there.
>> 
>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 17:18:48 +0200
>> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>> 
>> Hi I don't know if we should drift off into another topic, but let me just 
>> say that yes, it was me who had the problems with the camera, and this has 
>> to do with mindset just as much as the operation itself.  I just can't get 
>> into my thick head how blind folks want to and even take pictures knowing 
>> that there's no way in hell to check what the results of their attempts 
>> would be and i just don't want to embbarras myself with pictures that look 
>> like a blind person has taken them.  But that's me and it's also another 
>> thread or topic alltogether.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 5 apr.  2016 kl.  16:02 skrev Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>:
>> 
>> Hi Krister,
>> 
>> I am certainly not flogging you, in fact, I think it's awesome you are so 
>> proficient with Fleksy and I wish I could be, but it seems to be one of 
>> those situations where you just seem to have a particular skill/ability 
>> which allows you to use it and most others don't.  I seem to remember you 
>> once wrote you can't take good pictures with the iPhone.  I think that is 
>> something that can be learned also and I certainly have no problems doing so 
>> and getting great results with apps like KNFB Reader, Tap Tap See, Talking 
>> Goggles etc.  Sorry if it was a different thing you once stated you couldn't 
>> do if your life depended on it or if I am mixing you up with somebody else, 
>> but there just are some things that are easier for some than for others.  I 
>> typically have a pretty good spacial awareness of the screen and all that 
>> and I have tried everything you said and also read Alan's excellent tutorial 
>> yet still find Fleksy is just not working for me.  I sometimes hear Podcasts 
>> where people use Braille Input and it sounds like it works great and they 
>> are very fast with that.  I wish I could do that, but unfortunately the hand 
>> injuries I have when I blew myself up 30 some years ago make that 
>> impossible, I only have two fingers and the thumb on each hand so can't use 
>> braille input since you need at least three fingers.  So I'm stuck with the 
>> regular iOS keyboard and of course dictation which works quite well.  If I 
>> travel and only take my iPhone I usually bring a Bluetooth keyboard for 
>> situations where I may have to reply to an email and type quite a lot of 
>> text.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Krister Ekstrom
>> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 11:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>> 
>> I shouldn't bother to give any help on this topic since the unanymous vote 
>> of the blind community is that it is useless and those who think differently 
>> get flogged, but here goes: The keyboard can be resized.  There are 3 
>> different sizes of the keyboard and you can select size from the settings.  
>> When one's new to the keyboard i'd recommend the largest size.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 5 apr.  2016 kl.  01:34 skrev Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>>:
>> 
>> Chuck,
>> 
>> I still find the Fleksy VO app very useful and still use it.  I'm trying to 
>> make myself use the Fleksy Keyboard more often since like they say, practice 
>> makes perfect, or in this case, practice does give you better results.
>> 
>> After you type what you need with Fleksy VO, do a 2 finger swipe up and 
>> you'll be taken to the screen where VO will read your input and let you copy 
>> it for pasting to the app of your choice.
>> 
>> You might try using the Fleksy Keyboard in minimal mode instead of with the 
>> spacebar present.  This will present the keyboard more like the original 
>> Fleksy app.  You can switch from the spacebar keyboard by doing a 2 finger 
>> swipe down in the keyboard area.  A 2 finger swipe up while in the minimal 
>> Fleksy keyboard will switch back to the Fleksy spacebar keyboard.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:51 PM
>> To: VIPhone
>> Subject: Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?
>> 
>> Hi Alan, I read your tutorial, excellent job!
>> 
>> However, I went back and tried Fleksy and had very poor results.  It's first 
>> prediction is wrong about 99% of the time.  Second or third prediction is 
>> usually the correct one.
>> 
>> I do not know if this will improve over time, I seem to remember that it 
>> does have a learning future with in it.  It is technically faster than the  
>> iOS keyboard, but it is very frustrating!
>> 
>> By the way, I went back to my old Fleksy VO app, and tried typing with it.  
>> It got every word right! Unfortunately, many of the options no longer work.  
>> Although messages and email still work.
>> But as I typed, no text was displayed.
>> Chuck
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