Hello Rose, Your response to my post seems quite hostile and speaking both as a member of this list and as its moderator, your hostility is greatly not appreciated.
I do not recall ever having posted that anything is perfect. Perhaps you may not realize that I function both as a low vision user and as a totally blind user. This is to say that I use Jaws on my Windows laptops and I use Zoomtext on my Windows Desktops. Just as an aside, Braille is my preferred medium for reading hardcopy text. I believe I posted to this thread regarding my general disappointment with the current accessibility of iTunes for Windows 12.4 with regard to Jaws. Mark -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 8:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone? If you are seeing the screen quit telling those of us who are having problems that it is perfect. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone? Hello Alan, I'm running the latest version of Zoomtext on my Windows 7 PC. iTunes 12.4 has not locked up on me--not once. Your description of the layout reflects my own experience. I don't know about you but, as a low-vision user of Zoomtext, the first thing I do is to disable the album artwork column that is the default music Playlist view. Simply stated, when I select a playlist, I only want to see the list of songs in that list, without any artwork. To have a playlist be displayed without album artwork: 1. Select a playlist. 2. >From the View Menu, select View As. 3. >From the resulting submenu, select songs. Mark -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone? Hi Sieghard and others, I know others have commented about accessibility issues with the new iTunes 12.4 for Windows but my comments below reflect my using it with ZoomText and my remaining vision. Music appears to be the default media selected at the top of the sidebar. This control is actually a drop-down box that when entered, opens to present Movies, TV Shows, Podcasts, Apps, Books, and Tones which were simply listed in the old sidebar. ZoomText announces these after pressing enter and arrowing down the list but it is slow and inconsistent in doing so and I wonder if the other screen readers might be having some accessibility issues with this. When your iDevice is connected via USB cable to your computer, a control for it will appear just to the right of the media drop-down box. When it has focus, below it in a stacked list will be Summary, Apps, Movies, Music, etc. which in iTunes 11.4 were presented as tabs or buttons much like column headings across the top of the screen. I'm still playing with the easiest way to access these items since the arrow keys seem extremely sluggish on my system. The mouse appears the quickest way for those with vision and the tab key I think eventually gets to all the controls but it takes a good deal of tabbing. The only other thing I'm noticing with version 12.4 for Windows on my Windows 7 computer is that iTunes often stops responding and I have to go into task manager and close it in order to thaw out this freeze. Alan Lemly -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone? I agree, not that I really miss the sidebar, but this sidebar seems to refer only to music, it's not like I see Apps, Movies and so on there, they are still the usual radio buttons and I find this diebar more of a pain in the neck than anything else. I actually think that with the exception of file transfer and syncing apps to your phone the versions of iTunes 12 before this one worked just fine. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone? Hi Mark. Perhaps visually, it may look like the old sidebar but from a screen reader's perspective unless I'm missing something, it doesn't feel like the old sidebar at all and I am not in the phone view. The sidebar is enabled but not even close IMHO. In addition, several lists are broken where focused isn't being voiced as you arrow throught them. Best regards, Rick Alfaro -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iTunes SideBar, Anyone? 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