Funny, yes, I understand all this. There's certain things where I realize 
privacy is just not doable but there are other areas in which I really don't 
want to be messed with or advertised to constantly and so on I won't put a 
credit card on my phone. I guess I draw the line there. I also don't have 
medical records on my phone. Anyway yeah I don't I don't know what more to say. 
I just don't like applications to take total control without me having a little 
bit of wiggle room in there somewhere too.

Deidre


> On May 21, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Sieghard. One other thing you can do is read the privacy 
> guidelines of the services you're using, and stay away from those services 
> who are using technologies you don't trust or have policies you can't live 
> with. Note that most of these providers don't actually have access to most of 
> your information. Your information is encrypted and even the provider can't 
> break that encryption. Look at the recent news stories about Apple and the US 
> government asking for help getting to information on cell phones of known 
> terrorists.
> 
>> On 21/05/16 13:32, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> That is unfortunately the price we pay for being connected and utilizing 
>> modern technology. You have two basic choices: use the technology and the 
>> services and accept the fact that your privacy is to some extend compromised 
>> or don't accept that fact and either not use a smartphone (not a good option 
>> for us since we depend on the accessibility aspect of those phones) or you 
>> can turn off and disable as many of the services which make a smartphone a 
>> smartphone and use it simply to make calls and text. Many apps will not work 
>> well or at all without tracking your location or having access to your 
>> contacts.
>> If you really value your privacy you cannot be on Facebook, use Google, 
>> purchase stuff online, use loyalty cards or points programs and all that, 
>> best if you don't even use the internet which of course is not even feasible 
>> for most people nowadays.
>> 
>> Regardsm,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Deidre Muccio
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 10:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What's up
>> 
>> Thanks. All this access often makes me quite nervous. By that, I mean 
>> companies and people having access to my information.
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Deidre,
>>> 
>>> Whats App only allows you to send free text/voice messages or make free 
>>> calls to others who also use it just as you can do with Skype, Facebook, 
>>> iMessage/Facetime or a host of other Voip apps.
>>> I wouldn't worry too much about the Contacts thing, all that happens if you 
>>> give Whats App access to your Contacts is that it looks whether any of your 
>>> Contacts are using Whats App and it will indicate this.
>>> Whats App was bought by Facebook a year or two ago, but it's still run as a 
>>> separate service although I wouldn't be surprised if one day Facebook would 
>>> somehow integrate it into Messenger considering the great and lofty plans 
>>> Facebook has for Messengr to become it's own platform for many things from 
>>> communicating with friends to communicating with businesses, shopping and 
>>> many other things.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Deidre Muccio
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:29 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: What's up
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Deidre
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:00 AM, Caitlyn Furness <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:anyway thanks for clarifying the name of the application. I'm also 
>>>> still confused about what I'm being charge for when I either text or send 
>>>> an audio message to my friend in New Zealand. I had four dollars worth of 
>>>> charges this month and it doesn't specify what they are for. I don't know 
>>>> whether there for her regular text phone or for her iPhone in which I sent 
>>>> the messages to. I assumed I had sent it to her iPhone. All my bills said 
>>>> was that it was for international. Something or other!
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> It’s called What’s app
>>>> 
>>>> hth,
>>>> Caitlyn
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 21, 2016, at 8:55 AM, Deidre Muccio <deidreandlou...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm trying to figure out which is the correct application for the 
>>>>> application that will allow you to text message for free internationally. 
>>>>> Is it called what's up app or what's app or how do you spell that? To 
>>>>> many things came up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Deidre
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