Google is quite good at isolating phonymns rather than spellings, and does a 
good line in context quite often.  This as distinct 
from trying to reverse-TTS (STT) to reproduce a written phrase,...   whichit 
probably then submits to the search engines.  Even 
Google would choke on a second-hand chinese whisper.
This scenario more than explains some of siri's greatest bloopers.

BobH.
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From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 4:02 AM
Subject: RE: Siri, YouTube


Yes, it does get things wrong although I assume if you had perfect 
pronunciation and clear speech there wouldn't be many mistakes. 
If, for example, I dictate in German which is my first language it is almost 
perfect, but then again German spelling is also a lot 
simpler than English spelling since typically there aren't two or sometimes 
maybe even 3 different ways to spell certain words as in 
English. For example, "there" and "their", "hear" and "here", "bear" and "bare" 
etc. Anyhow, I did say " except for any potential 
mistakes" and I definitely don't want to defend SIRI because sometimes it 
really does interpret what you say in interesting ways and 
I think we all hope for major improvements both with dictation and especially 
with what queries SIRI can answer and how it can 
handle more compound queries.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jewel
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube

I have to disagree, in that, Siri doesn't write exactly what you said:  Siri 
writes what he * thinks you said, and that can make an 
embarrassing difference.

       Jewel

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From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 7:47 AM
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Siri, YouTube

Whenever you are dictating it's like you are writing the information, except 
for any potential mistakes SIRI will put exactly what 
you say. Dictation is also done via SIRI, but it is just voice recognition just 
the same as when you dictate a text message. Then if 
you dictate a phrase or whatever and you are in the Youtube search box then of 
course whatever is found is up to how Youtube matches 
what you said.
If you use SIRI and ask "When was Albert Einstein's birthday" or something 
similar the answer depends on what sources SIRI has 
available and is checking for answers. Here SIRI is not as good as other 
virtual assistants such as the one from Google which seems 
to come up with useful information more often.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Deidre Muccio
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube

I guess what I was noticing is that when I dictate a query in the search field 
in YouTube I can use very natural speech and it 
brings me up pretty near exactly what I'm looking for. When I asked Siri a 
question what determines whether she'll be able to answer 
it or not? What she will find? Why is the performance so much less able to 
recognize the nature of the information I am seeking?

Deidre


> On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>
> Sorry if I am not understanding the question, but what does Youtube
> have to do with SIRI or search engines? Youtube is a site to share
> videos, you can upload or consume all sorts of content from the latest music 
> videos to TV shows, but it is not a general search 
> engine like Google or Bing.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> The word in the last post that was garbled should have been YouTube
>
> Deidre
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