The lock is associated with the phone and not the sim card. This is why you can't put a sim card from another carrier into your locked phone and use it.

On 10/09/16 17:47, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
Thanks, Kellie.

Is the lock  of a locked phone on the phone hardware or part of the Sim? Just 
curious.

Once unlocked, whether it's the phone hardware or the Sim, can I transfer the 
Sim to a new phone and it will work?

I'm hoping to avoid being manipulated by Verizon into a 2-year Service 
contract, but would like to keep Verizon service for a while at least on a 
monthly basis before possibly switching to another provider. That's why I'm 
curious whether Verizon would need to get involved with activation of a new 
phone using the old sim from the unlocked phone.

Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 3:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT&T and T-Mobile Do Not Support 
CDMA Networks

Keith,

You likely did not pay full price for your phone when you entered into your 
contract with Verizon.  Once you pay for your obligation, your iPhone does not 
know that you are paid in full with your phone company.  Verizon needs to 
authorize the unlocking of your phone.
Often this can be done online.  Folks at a Verizon store can help too.
If Verizon employees ignore your request to unlock your off contract phone, 
then you can take steps to insist Verizon allow you full access to your fully 
paid property.  Post if Verizon is giving you hassles when you seek phone 
freedom.

Kelly




On 9/9/16, Kramlinger, Keith G. <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,

I’m curious how this works.

I have an iPhone 6 with Verizon that comes off contract in October. If
I buy an unlocked phone from Apple when available, can I just transfer
my iPhone 6 sim card into the new phone, and that’s it. Or, would
Verizon need to get involved somehow with the new phone activation,
and would that be problematic?

Also, I seem to recall that phones of that generation were already unlocked.
Is that the case, or will I need to get Verizon to unlock the iPhone 6?

Many thanks. Keith

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT&T and T-Mobile Do Not
Support CDMA Networks

You can just wait a few weeks until they release an unlocked version.
I think last year, unlocked phones started popping  up around  the
beginning of November. This is  what I plan on doing as I have nearly
$200.00 in redeemable BestBuy points that I‘m going to use to offset the 
phone’s cost.
If you  want to  go for last year’s model, the Apple store is selling
the 6S, 6S Plus and SE unlocked. I think the SE 64GB dropped to
$450.00 for example.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT&T and T-Mobile Do Not
Support CDMA Networks

OK, let's say you go through the Apple store online and buy an
unlocked phone. But apparently, you have to declare a carrier. So if
you declare T-Mobile or AT&T, then pay for your phone, will you be
getting one with one of those modems that won't work on the CDMA? I
guess the safe thing would be to declare Verizon or Sprint.
Mary
?

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On Sep 8, 2016, at 7:59 PM, Miller Family
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I always buy my phone outright and unlocked, so this will make no
difference to me.  But I wonder about those who try to switch simm cards for 
traveling?
 This could be a deal breaker for them.
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On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:54 PM, Mary Otten
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I have to admit, this article did make me wonder if there were any
other substantive differences between these modems. I had no clue,
before seeing this article, that only the QUALCOMM modems supported
all of the different network types. I have no interest in going back
to Verizon, so for me personally, it probably doesn't matter. On the
other hand, what else is hidden?
Mary

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On Sep 8, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Wow. Thanks very much for this, Mary.

From:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>[mailto:vipho
[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:30 PM
To:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>;macvisionari
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>;mac4thebli
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Surprise!! iPhone 7 Models From AT&T and T-Mobile Do Not
Support CDMA Networks

iPhone 7 Models From AT&T and T-Mobile Do Not Support CDMA Networks
MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Joe Rossignol

Choosing which iPhone model to purchase this year should be more
carefully considered, as both AT&T and T-Mobile models of the iPhone
7<http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-7/> and iPhone 7 Plus do not
support CDMA networks such as Verizon and Sprint in the United States.
Apple confirmed the matter in fine print in the iPhone 7 tech
specs<http://www.apple.com/iphone-7/specs/> and on its
LTE<http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/> page.

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A customer that purchases an iPhone 7 from Apple's website and selects
AT&T as their carrier, for example, would be unable to later use the
smartphone on Verizon, Sprint, or any other CDMA network, even if the
device is unlocked. By comparison, all iPhone
6s<http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-6s/> and iPhone 6s Plus
models worked on both GSM and CDMA networks.

A customer that purchases an iPhone 7 from Apple's website and selects
Verizon as their carrier, on the other hand, would also be able to use
the smartphone on AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, or any other GSM or CDMA network.

It was previously reported that Apple would switch to Intel
modems<http://www.macrumors.com/2015/10/16/intel-lte-modem-chip-iphone
-7/> for select iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus models, including AT&T
models<http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/10/intel-qualcomm-modem-split-
iphone-7/>, and Intel modems do not support the CDMA standard in the
United States. That is likely the reason why AT&T and T-Mobile models
are limited to GSM networks.

<image002.jpg>
Only Verizon and Sprint models support both GSM and CDMA networks

The same report said Qualcomm would supply modems for the remaining
iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus units, including Verizon and Chinese
models<http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/10/intel-qualcomm-modem-split-
iphone-7/>, and this appears to be the case. Qualcomm modems support
both the GSM and CDMA standard, which explains why the iPhone 7 from
Verizon and Sprint will work on all carriers.

Qualcomm, which holds patents for WCDMA and CDMA2000 standards, is the
main CDMA modem supplier in the United States. The company developed
the first CDMA-based cellular base station in 1990, and since then it
has licensed its technology to companies like Apple in return for royalty 
payments.

Until this year, Qualcomm was Apple's exclusive supplier of modems for
LTE and Wi-Fi connectivity, which explains why the iPhone 6s and
previous generations supported both GSM and CDMA networks regardless
of carrier. But with Intel entering the mix, choosing which iPhone to
purchase is now more meaningful.

<image003.jpg>
All iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus models supported both GSM and CDMA
networks

The lack of CDMA support in iPhones with Intel modems may be short
lived, fortunately, as Intel acquired CDMA
assets<http://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/intel-continues-to-pare-
mobile-losses-buys-cdma-modem-assets-from-via-telecom>
from VIA Telecom in 2015. It is believed that this acquisition could
pave the way for Intel to release its first LTE modem with both GSM
and CDMA support as early as 2017 or 2018.

Ultimately, the most obvious choice should be to purchase a Verizon or
Sprint model, even if you are an AT&T or T-Mobile customer, especially
when considering resale value. However, some customers may have
difficulty purchasing from another carrier, depending on their current
status with their existing carrier.

Apple should also release an unlocked SIM-free model in the U.S.,
likely based on the Verizon/Sprint model, in a few weeks based on past launches.
Related Roundup: iPhone 7<http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-7/>
Tags: Intel<http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/intel/>,
Sprint<http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/sprint/>,
T-Mobile<http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/t-mobile/>,
AT&T<http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/att/>,
Verizon<http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/verizon/>,
Qualcomm<http://www.macrumors.com/roundup/qualcomm/>

Discuss this
article<http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/att-and-tmobile-iphone-7-m
odels-lack-cdma.1992985/>
in our forums
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3hfc:mkr4un4YuMw:yIl2AUoC8zA><~WRD393.jpg><http://feeds.macrumors.com/
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YuMw:qj6IDK7rITs>
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Original Article:
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/08/att-and-tmobile-iphone-7-models-la
ck-cdma/


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