Yes, it was clear to me.

On 06/11/16 14:40, Dave wrote:

I don’t think, that my question, was vague atall, in-fact, many people
seemed to understand it perfectly fine!

Sieghard, and other list members, who wrote to me, on and off the list,
had no problem, with the clarity of what i was asking.

Maybe you picked up the thread, somewhere after my original question.

Take care,

Dave.


*From:* Todd Patkus <mailto:tpte...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, November 06, 2016 7:35 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: iOS 10.1.1 Is Now Available:


Sieghard,



To me, Dave’s statement was a bit vague and a bit incomplete to which
was the context I understood, so I was simply suggesting him contact the
Accessibility department.  He should have been a little bit more
specific, but his statement was not 100% clear.  That is how I got the
impression.



Sieghard, I never make calls using the Phone app on the iPhone.  All I
use is the messages and Mail app.



I have speech completely muted.



That is all.



Todd



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Sunday, November 06, 2016 11:34 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: iOS 10.1.1 Is Now Available:



Hi Todd,



I think Dave was merely asking if the 10.1.1 update fixed the bug. I
don’t know if Dave reported it to Apple Accessibility, but I have done
so and I’m sure others have and this one is easy to reproduce since it
seems to be very consistent. Any time you make an outgoing phone call
Voiceover will say “Incoming call” after you dial the number or tap on
the contact.



Regards,

Sieghard



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Todd Patkus
*Sent:* Sunday, November 6, 2016 1:11 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: iOS 10.1.1 Is Now Available:



Dave,



Read below my signature what you wrote.  That is where I stand.  You
should have contacted the accessibility about this issue you brought up.



Todd



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave
*Sent:* Sunday, November 06, 2016 2:25 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: iOS 10.1.1 Is Now Available:



sorry Tod, don’t quite understand, what you are saying.



Dave.



*From:*Todd Patkus <mailto:tpte...@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Sunday, November 06, 2016 5:26 AM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

*Subject:*RE: iOS 10.1.1 Is Now Available:



Yes, Dave, it includes such.  Just let the staff at Apple Accessibility.



Todd



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2016 2:36 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: iOS 10.1.1 Is Now Available:



Hi, does it fix, the Voiceover bug, that says incoming call, when an
out-going call is being made?



*From:*Todd Patkus <mailto:tpte...@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Wednesday, November 02, 2016 4:10 AM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

*Subject:*RE: iOS 10.1.1 Is Now Available:



Everyone,



In order to expedite this issue, contact Apple Accessibility to report
the bug.  The more folks the more the issue becomes known to them, they
might do something.



Send an email to them at:



accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>



Todd



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *????? ?? ???????
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:58 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: iOS 10.1.1 Is Now Available:



Hi! No this update doesn't fix this bug.

Sent from  my iphone


‫ב-2 בנוב׳ 2016, בשעה 0:45, ‏‏Arnold Schmidt‏<als5...@gmail.com
<mailto:als5...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:

    Did this update  fix the problem with the cursor not moving when
    editing text in an edit field? I still am running 10.0.1 until they
    get this situation resolved.

    Thanks for any information.

    Arnold Schmidt

    Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

    On Oct 31, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Gary Bowers <gdbow...@swbell.net
    <mailto:gdbow...@swbell.net>> wrote:

    forbes.com <http://forbes.com>
    Apple iOS 10.1.1 Is Now Available: What Is Included In The Update?
    Amit Chowdhry
    Apple has released iOS 10.1.1 to the general public today. The iOS
    10.1.1
    update comes one week after iOS 10.1 was released. The reason why Apple
    quickly issued this software update is because it fixes a bug that
    Forbes
    contributor Gordon Kelly reported exclusively last week. Apple
    declined to
    reply to requests to acknowledge the bug until now. You can install iOS
    10.1.1 by connecting your device to iTunes or downloading it by going to
    Settings > General > Software Update. The iOS 10.1.1 update is
    available for
    the following devices: iPhone 5 and later, iPad 4th generation and
    later and
    iPod touch 6th generation and later.
    What Is Included In The Update?
    The software update is relatively small at under 70MB, which
    indicates that
    it is a minor update with a few bug fixes. There weren’t any betas
    of iOS
    10.1.1 either. And the changelog of the iOS 10.1.1 software update
    says: “This update fixes bugs including an issue where Health data
    could not
    be viewed for some users.”
    There were many complaints about health data not being visible
    following the
    iOS 10.1.1 update within the Apple Communities forum so it is a
    relief that
    Apple turned around a fix in a short amount of time:

    And Forbes contributor Gordon Kelly said that he was contacted by many
    people directly “with stories of hours spent on the phone to Apple tech
    support, all without resolution.” Many Twitter users also said that they
    attempted to reboot and factory reset the devices, but the Health
    app data
    did not reappear:

    iOS 10.1 was somewhat of a major update. iOS 10.1 included a “Portrait”
    mode, which helps make the most out of the dual cameras in the iPhone 7
    Plus. The Portrait camera mode essentially utilized the wide-angle and
    telephoto iPhone 7 lenses in a way to create portraits with depth
    effects.
    This makes the subjects of the photos look sharp while also creating
    blurred
    backgrounds, known as “bokeh” effects. iOS 10.1 also included Transit
    directions for Apple Maps in Japan. And iOS 10.1 also added a “Reduce
    Motion” setting for the Bubble and Screen effects in the Messages app.

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