How very kind of you.

On 11/21/2016 5:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Shaf,
> 
> I may not agree with Todd's attitude, but you still should be careful when 
> you judge, you simply don't know somebody until you walked in their shoes.
> I definitely also don't appreciate people calling others jerk no matter what, 
> those who do that are no better and often worse than the person they are so 
> quick to label with such words.
> If I were moderator you would be off the list based on that statement.
> 
> Take care,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shaf Patel
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Delete & remove in iOS
> 
> Jerks will be jerks. /ignore
> 
> On 11/21/2016 5:00 PM, regina alvarado wrote:
>>
>> Mr. Ed, I was not aware Todd was deaf/blind, but having read all of 
>> his posts it seems he is a tad nasty to people who he wishes to help 
>> him. I do not care if someone is deaf, blind, black, white, Asian, in 
>> a wheelchair, have a guide dog, an Indian-American or someone outside 
>> the country, U.S., there is no need to be nasty. There is far, far too 
>> much of that going around. It is time he try and make a point without 
>> attacking the very folks who are helping him. I have a hearing deficit 
>> also and frustration with some parts of iPhone, but I lived when there 
>> were no computers much less voice or braille displays. Talk about 
>> frustration. I had to use an Optacon to read my whole screen on my 
>> first computer at work. Couldn't even do that With just a typewriter. 
>> I do not know his age, but it does come across as a spoiled child. 
>> Jonathan is never nasty, and he has a worse hearing difficulty than 
>> me. Would Helen Keller be nasty? Me thinks not!!! (smiles and hugs) On 
>> Nov 21, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Mr. Ed <pink...@abe.midco.net 
>> <mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Reggie,
>>
>> Todd is deaf blind and uses a Braille key board. So he cannot use the 
>> method you gave him.
>>
>> Someone on the list gave Todd the complete Braille instructions step 
>> by step but Todd stated they did not work for him.
>>
>> Mr. Ed
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *regina alvarado
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 9:41 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Delete & remove in iOS
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Todd, I had home off my phone almost from the time I got it. Maybe you 
>> are using an earlier phone? I do not know why you are having so much 
>> trouble, but I am sorry it doesn't work for you. I had arrange apps, 
>> tapped on that, went to the activate choice, double tapped with one 
>> finger on that and I could delete completely just as any other IOS app 
>> or app I put on. I am" using IOS 10.1.1 or the latest.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Reggie and Lex
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:tpte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> All:
>>
>>  
>>
>> Now you realize why I stood very firm about what I said of the delete issue?
>>
>>  
>>
>> One person on this list claimed that Home app can be deleted, but, 
>> when I tried doing so, it will not.  It says “Your Homekit will not be 
>> deleted”.  This really sucks.  I have absolutely no need for it.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yes, y’all need to understand that.  That is what Apple Inc. fails to 
>> realize.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Also, Health app does not show “activate” or “Arranging apps”.  What 
>> kind of thing is that?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Use your common sense!
>>
>>  
>>
>> That is all I can say now.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Todd
>>
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