Better yet, why isn't it running the latest Jellybean? If you walk into an Apple store and buy an IOS device you wil get the latest shipping OS with the latest accessibility improvements.
Frank Ventura Email: frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com<mailto:frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com> Voicemail: 781 492-4262 Imessage: frankmvent...@mac.com<mailto:frankmvent...@mac.com> *Sent from my Mac Book Air* On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com<mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote: The recently released Kindle Fire hd is running Ice Cream Sandwich. Why didn't hey make it accessible? -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over That may be true, but Amazon has made at least some effort in addressing the accessibility in other Kindle products. I'd also assume the Kindle Fire will move to Android 4.x at some point, so hopefully they'll pick up the accessibility built into Android. I admit this may not be as much as we'd like, and it isn't as much as what Apple is doing, but the implication that Amazon isn't doing anything with respect to accessibility is a bit overstated. On 18/09/12 09:20, Russ Kiehne wrote: At least Apple makes there Ios devices accessible unlike Amazon. Amazon has done nothing to make the Kindle fire or Kindle keyboard fully accessible. -----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi Kawal, Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows, Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now they are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who once had the edge on everybody I do wish them well. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<http://googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Who said RIM? They might be dead from all the gloomy coverage they get. On 17 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com<mailto:vegaspipistre...@gmail.com>> wrote: I will add that you can search for apps by going to the Itunes store. The search results will have a heading something like "Iphone apps". HtH, Teresa On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, christopher hallsworth <christopher...@gmail.com<mailto:christopher...@gmail.com>> wrote: Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform, and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next click download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and it will update on the computer side. Finally sync your device and your apps will be updated on the device as well. Sent from my mac On 17 Sep 2012, at 19:12, Ron Pelletier <ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca<mailto:ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca>> wrote: Hi all, I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and never through ITunes. Could someone quickly explain the procedure to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot better about updating to IOS 6. September 19 is my birthday and I would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck. Thanks Ron & Danvers -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<http://googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of John Panarese Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative and reliable. I am glad that this was mentioned by them. As someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so let's hope it will be fixed. In the mean time, I'll rely on AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com<mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, "AnonyMouse" <anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com<mailto:anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com>> wrote: Jim, We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information. As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO. I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues but we have said there were other issues. So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are blowing smoke. Regards, AnonyMouse AppleVis Editorial Team www.AppleVis.com<http://www.AppleVis.com> Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville Zello: =AnonyMouse= -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over I agree and I don't know why they said that. It bothers me that they did. If they were going to go as far as they did, they could at leastmention the areas they were referring to. Let's hope they were blowing smoke and the others are right that there are not other major issues. A few have said there are not. Jim On 9/16/12, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> wrote: The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as well. However from what I am reading hear it doesn't look that way. If the only problem that exists is that the app store is hard to use than unlike others I don't really care since I can do the same thing using iTunes. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hi, Also, you guys need to realize the changes to the store aren't going to be completely rolled out until iOS 6 launches on Wednesday, so for those that can vouch for what Jonathon said, me being one of them, there's a chance we won't see improvements until the store changes are completely rolled out. Even if there are none, I'm sure it's something easily fixable since the changes to the stores don't' require a new version of iOS itself. Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<http://googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over OK, this is my personal experience. The sky isn't falling in, and the App Store isn't inaccessible. I update apps in iOS6 daily. I think it is true to say that the information conveyed by VoiceOver could be more helpful. First, the behaviour of the App Store has changed. As has already been said in this thread, you no longer need to enter your password when you update. You do, however, contrary to some speculation in blogs a while ago, still have to enter your password when you install a free app. When you update an app, you are no longer taken out of the App Store and placed on the page the app is installed on. Instead, you simply stay in the App Store, right where you are. When you double tap the update button, I can see nothing that gives you confirmation that the app update has begun downloading. However, if you go to your home screen right away, you will be able to see that it in fact has, because you can see the percentage of the download and install changing. So in no way do I think this should be seen as a reason not to update. yes, it would be nice if the update button changed to an updating, or downloading, button after it is pressed, but it isn't inaccessible at all. Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<http://googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 12:44 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Hello Jonathan, since many things have already been said and speculated on, I would say that if you have information which helps to clear things up, go right ahead. I'll let you be the judge of how much you can say. Hopefully people will read this thread in its entirety before commenting. Lastly, to everyone, I still recommend you read all about the new changes before you upgrade. The reason is because once you do, you can't go back, and if you really don't like something, then you will be forced to deal with it sooner than later. As it is, you will have to move forward at some point, but maybe by not jumping the gun so quickly, you won't be as surprised. Cheers. -- Raul A. Gallegos There's a problem in the cockpit. The cockpit, what is it? It's the little room in the front where the pilot sits but that's not important right now. - Airplane Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Face book: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 9/16/2012 6:58 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like clarification on whether the moderators are happy for the thread to continue given that those of us using iOS6 are still supposed to be under NDA. Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: kliph...@gmail.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality in updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility issues or reliability issues? Thanks, Jim On 9/16/12, Kliphton <kliph...@gmail.com> wrote: I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, especially in iMessage. There are some new features in mail, and we even have a do not disturb feature. That's all for now, let's wait for Wednesday. On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra <sen...@gmail.com> wrote: 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. 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