Tom, what is Immersive Reader? Is it similar to Voice Dream Reader? I tried 
searching for it in the app store, but couldn't find any app by that name.


Thanks,
Ari 

> On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:51 AM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I installed Office Lens on my phone quite some time ago but never really paid 
> much attention to it until I read the information about it in Tidbits. At 
> first I wasn't thrilled about having to set up a Microsoft account as it was 
> kind of a pain in the neck to do, but once that was done everything went 
> smoothly. I have several students who want a scanning app but can't afford 
> KNFB Reader's hefty price tag, so I showed Office Lens to them and they were 
> favorably impressed. At first I scanned a single-page document and exported 
> it into Immersive Reader and let Immersive Reader play it back. Frankly, the 
> defaukt voice in Immersive Reader sounded a little garbled to my ears and I 
> found that reading the document with VoiceOver while in Immersive Reader was 
> cleaner and crisper. Though I didn't test this, I would imagine that I'd be 
> able to use the VO rotor to navigate by character, word, line and so on and I 
> doubt that Immersive Reader's playback would let me do that.
> Yesterday afternoon I did a second demo for a couple of students and that 
> time I scanned a multiple-page document. To do that, you do the first page, 
> then after the image is processed, you tap the Camera button, take your next 
> shot, let Office Lens process the second picture, then repeat that procedure 
> until all your pages have been scanned and processed. Tap Save All, then all 
> of your document images are presumably merged and available as a single 
> document which can be exported to whatever choices are available. Again, I 
> dumped them into Immersive Reader and let VO read. The results were clean as 
> a whistle and reading was seamless.  Later on I talked with one of my 
> coworkers who also uses Office Lens and he agrees with me that it's a very 
> good app and you sure can't beat the price. Granted it's not as simple to use 
> as KNFB Reader  and it's certainly easier to use than Prizmo, so for me, it's 
> a keeper. 
> 
> I have a question for the person who mentioned that Office Lens preserves or 
> at least approximates the document formatting. In the past, I've found that 
> PC-based  packages like Open Book and Kurzweil 1000 will  "mangle" forms of 
> various sorts, absolutely destroying their formatting  and making them 
> unusable for anything except determining what information is asked for in the 
> form. Is it possible to scan something like a job application, then export it 
> into Word so that a blind person could then fill it out independently on a 
> computer, print it out and submit it? It would be fabulous if such a scenario 
> is possible.
> 
> Tom
> 
>     
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
> 
>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:02 PM, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Glad to hear you are having the same experience I have had. The price is 
>> unbeatable and every software or OS in the world collects information about 
>> how we use our devices so why the big to-do about Microsoft? It is a darn 
>> sight better than paying $99 for KNFB Reader in my opinion.
>> Marie
>>  
>>  
>> From: Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Office Lens, New App
>>  
>> Marie,
>>  
>> I have to agree with you. I had great success with Office Lens scanning a 
>> two-page homeowners association minutes document. Granted, the document 
>> contained print with a larger font but I liked the app's ability to scan it, 
>> convert every letter correctly, format it with a similar appearance as the 
>> original, and save it as a Word docx file to Dropbox. I did put the camera 
>> mode on document and those using the app should be aware you can pick from 
>> among business card, photo, document, and white board modes by a single 
>> finger swipe up and down on the camera mode  button. Also, the app was good 
>> about indicating left and right needed movement when positioning my camera 
>> before taking the picture. I already have a Microsoft account set up in my 
>> iPhone 7 so I wasn't presented with anything having to do with that when 
>> using the app. And I was presented with a screen allowing me to save it from 
>> Word where I opened it directly to the desired folder in Dropbox. It was 
>> very slick and well done even if not as quick as KNFB Reader. You absolutely 
>> can't beat the free price and if you want to capture a document on your 
>> phone that looks like the original, this is the app for that. And I'm not 
>> worried about Microsoft getting access to my business any more than those 
>> who are Office 365 users should be.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Marie
>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 4:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Office Lens, New App
>>  
>> I am amazed that three of you say you did not find this app useful. I just 
>> downloaded it today and am thrilled with what it does and how easy it was to 
>> get started. Strange that our experience would be so different.
>> Marie
>>  
>>  
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Office Lens, New App
>>  
>> I also tried this app and did not find it very good at all.
>> For free, the iDentifi app set to Text works great if you don’t mind not be 
>> able to easily save the file.
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:08 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Office Lens, New App
>>  
>> I tried it and found it less than intuitive. I heard about it from a Cool 
>> Blind Tech Podcast after the CSUN where they mentioned how youcould scan a 
>> business card and it would recognize all the text like names, phone numbers 
>> and so on and you could easily create a contact entry from that and I could 
>> not at all figure out how to do this.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mike B.
>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 12:30 PM
>> To: VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Office Lens, New App
>>  
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Got this from Top Tech Tidbits.
>> 5. Microsoft Office Lens is a free alternative to the KNFB Reader on the 
>> iPhone for reading print:
>> http://www.rsbc.org.uk/blogs/microsoft-office-lens-review-an-accessible-way-to-read-printed-documents/
>> 
>> 
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>  
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>  
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: 
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>  
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>  
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>  
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: 
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>  
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>  
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>  
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: 
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>  
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>  
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>  
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: 
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>  
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>  
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>  
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: 
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>  
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>>  
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>  
>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: 
>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>  
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "VIPhone" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: 
> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "VIPhone" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  
mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"VIPhone" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Reply via email to