It will be interesting to see how this works in the real world once these phones are in the hands of blind users. It's nice Apple is thinking of this, but I thought it was neat how Face Id wouldn't unlock a phone if the person had their eyes closed. This makes total sense because if it could be unlocked this way anybody could pick up your phone if you are asleep or what if you had an accident and are unconscious or what if somebody simply hit you on the head because they want to steel your phone. They could then unlock it quite easily by simply pointing it to your face. Of course in the situation where you are out cold because of an accident or because you got bonked on the head somebody could do what they want with your hand as well and unlock using Touch Id. Nobody could pick up my hand to put it on the Touch Id if I'm asleep without waking me up, but you could probably pick up my wife and put her in a tub filled with cold water without waking her up when she's asleep *smile*. Anyhow, I would probably re-enable the attention feature first to see if it works just for security, if it's disabled by default when Voiceover is running and a smart iPhone thief knows this they could simply bring up SIRI, tell SIRI to turn on Voiceover and then this security aspect would be disabled. Regards, Sieghard
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Wocher Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 4:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About unlocking iPhone 10 Hello, You will be able to turn off the attention option in the accessibility options. This means you will not have to have your eyes open I believe. This was mentioned in an applevis post. Regards, Greg Wocher > On Sep 12, 2017, at 7:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Maybe eyes have to be open so nobody can take your phone and unlock it by > pointing it at you while you are asleep. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Mary Otten > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:16 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: About unlocking iPhone 10 > > The interesting thing is that they say you have to have your eyes not closed. > If it were just facial recognition, why would it care if your eyes were open > or closed? I know some totally blind people, myself included, who are > sometimes told or asked, why do you have your eyes closed. When that happens > to me, I honestly say I didn't realize they were closed. And opening them or > at least when I guess is opening them feels entirely not natural. > Fortunately, as the owner of a 7+, I do not feel the need to rush out for an > upgrade. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 12, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> >> I think it will work just fine, my eyes are fake, too, but Face Id is not >> about retina or any other eye scanning but facial recognition. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Kathy Brandt >> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 12:53 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: About unlocking iPhone 10 >> >> Interesting Apple event today. I wonder, if you have artificial eyes, and >> poor muscle control, by view even of the fact that your eyes aren't real, >> will the iPhone recognize that you're trying to look at it? 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