Wireless charging has been a bit slow in coming, but it obviously is where things are going and now that Apple has adopted it and, surprise surprise, they actually adopted an open standard instead of developing their own proprietary one wireless charging will take off big time. The two clowns from Windows Weekly may not always have good things to say about Apple, but Paul T did say in their last Podcast that while Apple may not always be the first to the party that when they do adopt something they usually do it right and once they adopt it everybody else takes note just because Apple is so big and influencial. This is mainly true although in a very important way he is also wrong because Apple was the one who really started the smartphone party and they were the ones who absolutely pioneered multi-touch, having apps and all that. They also have the cash to invest into OLED technology and to help other companies to produce these things in the quantities they need without being entirely dependent on Samsung and let's face it, they did also put Touch Id on the mainstream map because while of course fingerprint sensors have existed for many years, Apple made them ubiquitous and from what I read nowhere does it work as fast and reliably as on the iPhone. Now they are doing the same with Face Id, so far it's been a toy available on a few phones and let's not forget Windows Hello which nobody uses, you can be certain that in a few years everybody will try to catch up with Apple on this. I would not be at all surprised if Apple are the first ones to figure out how to wireless charge from a distance,either.
Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits? They may be making up for the lack of a headphone jack. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2017, at 8:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > But why would you want to plug into a computer for every-day charging and > wait 2 or 3 times as long for the phone to charge? > > According to a quick Google search (I just wanted to make sure) the USB > specifications provide a 5 V supply on a single wire to power connected USB > devices. > A unit load is defined as 100 mA in USB 2.0, and 150 mA in USB 3.0. A > device may draw a maximum of 5 unit loads (500 mA) from a port in USB > 2.0; 6 (900 > mA) in USB 3.0. > As power is equal to current times voltage, all you have to do is multiply 5V > with the current the device is drawing from the port. > > OK, so therefore if your USB 3 port does provide 900 MA at 5 Volts, you get > 4.5 Watts of power, if you are using a USB 2.0 port you get at best 2.5 Watts. > The iPhone charger we all have from when we buy our iPhones delivers 5 Volts > at 1 Amp hence it delivers 5 Watts and if you use an iPad charger you get 5.1 > Volts at 2.1 Amps which gives you 12 Watts (rounded down). > If you really care about charging quickly and you plan to buy an iPhone 8, 8 > Plus or iPhone X which all support fast charging then you can spend a bit > more money and get Apple's fast charger which I belive is a USB C to > Lightning cable and which will charge your phone from empty to 50% in 30 > minutes. Plug an empty phone into a computer and it takes almost 5 minutes > before it even turns on again and after half an hour you may have 20 or 25%. > I only plug my phone into the computer if I want to sync it or copy some > photos off it although since setting up iCloud on my computer that's not > really necessary any more since all the photos I take magically appear on my > computer anyways and I do also use it from time to time if I am travelling > and I have my laptop with me where maybe I'm sitting at an airport for a > couple of hours and plugging it into the laptop is better than not plugging > it in at all. > > Regards, > Sieghard > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of James Homuth > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:52 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits? > > Eh. As long as Apple gives me some benefit to plugging the phone in, > particularly to my computer, I'm probably not going to switch to wireless > charging. Okay, so perhaps you won't be able to use your computer to download > apps going forward. I assume you can still use it to download iOS, and back > up your phone. Because we all know how often Apple's updates are the opposite > of flawless, that will be good enough reason for me not to adopt wireless > charging. If Apple eventually kills those benefits, such as only letting you > update the OS from your phone, it may be time for me to consider a switch to > Android. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: September-15-17 2:10 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits? > > Hi Alan, > > I assume the wireless charging pads will always have to plugged into a wall > outlet, but for me I see the advantage in how easy it is to simply put your > phone down on the pad on your side table or in the living room and it's > charging. You don't plug in your lightning cable each time you put your phone > down and maybe 10 minutes later you want to get up and walk away, then you > first have to unplug the cable and all in all it's just a nuisance. As I said > before, I think the fact the phone would be charging a great deal of the time > when it's lying on the table means you most of the time walk away with a full > or almost full battery and of course most batteries nowadays don't care about > getting charge just a bit all the time. Then of course there is the fact that > as this technology gets to be purvasive in coffee shops, restaurants, > airplanes and so on you have lots of opportunities to charge your phone. I > believe the Belkin mat delivers 7.5 Watts and as the new iPhones all have > fast charging technology (they charge from completely empty to 50% in half an > hour) I really do see how this can be a very nice feature even if there is an > initial investment. > Also, this is something Tom from Applevis brought up in their special Podcast > about the Apple event, many of us go through Lightning cables on a fairly > regular bases. I personally seem to get quite a long life out of them, but I > have broken some and certainly have bought my share of cables. > Wireless charging would mostly illiminate this issue and while the charging > pad is more expensive to begin with, you would probably have this thing for > years and years to come so vover time it may end up paying for itself. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Alan Lemly > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:56 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits? > > Well, until wireless charging is more prevalent with more competition, I > can't see much advantages from the one product I just read about. The Belkin > Boost Up charging pad sells for $59.99 and unless I'm missing something has > to be plugged into a wall outlet. I'm having a hard time understanding why > this is really all that more convenient than just plugging a cable into your > phone to charge it but I admit I've not fully researched the technology yet. > > Alan Lemly > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:45 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits? > > I think even the fact I could get 3 or 4 of these chargers for my office and > at home to have in the kitchen, bedroom and living room would make a big > difference. Yes, you could have cables in all these locations, but who wants > to go to the kitchen, plug in the phone, then unplug it when you maybe go to > the living room, plug it in again and so on and so forth. If all you have to > do is put it down on a charging pad this is a totally different story. I for > one have preferred places where I put down my phone in these places so if I > had a charging pad there my phone would always be charged and I rarely would > have to worry about running out. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of lenron brown > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:11 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits? > > When I can charge wirelessly from a distance that's when it will really > matter to me, still a cool thing to have though so I am not knocking it. > >> On 9/14/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> Hi Chris, >> >> I don t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the >> technology which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not >> exist. Maybe it exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple >> is probably working very hard on getting this to work, but for now >> wireless just means that you don t have to plug in a wire. >> As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on >> have wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your >> phone charging right next to you, obviously nobody would put their >> phone down on a charging pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 >> feet > away. >> As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you >> to do this just as you have always done it which means bring your >> Lightning cable and plug it in. However, when Apple releases their >> Airpower charger as they call it then for people who have an iPhone, >> an Apple Watch and maybe Airpods bringing this instead makes a lot of >> sense since it can charge all three devices by themselves or all >> three at once and of course as time goes by this may even include >> other devices > which adopt the standard. >> As with everything once Apple adopts something, in this case the Chi >> wireless charging standard, they not only can pour a ton of money >> into it to make it better but accessory makers will also scramble to >> bring out a wide variety of devices to compliment it. >> >> >> Best regards, >> Sieghard >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Cris Ali >> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:58 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits? >> >> Hello folks, >> When I listened to the apple keynote, I did not quite understand the >> advantages of wireless charging. My understanding is that one needs >> to place the phone on a wireless charging pad or stand for it to >> charge. This is not remotely wireless charging. That means that we >> have to worry about more gadgets to carry when we travel. In >> addition to the adapter and the wire, we will need to also carry a >> pad or a stand for the wireless charging to work. >> I understood that if many public places provide wireless charging we >> would not have to worry about carrying our charging accessories. >> However, I am not sure I would like to place my phone on a charging >> pad in a restaurant or caf , or in an airport terminal. Unless the >> wireless charging pad is on my table or on the arm of my chair, I >> would > not use it. >> Can someone who is more familiar with this idea and process explain >> it better to me? >> Cheers, >> Cris >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V >> iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. 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