Hi Anna,

I agree, if I had jumped on the apple Watch when it was first released I would 
most definitely upgrade. The same goes for phones. It's interesting how people 
like Brian Tong from the Apple byte Podcast and even Rob Walsh from Today in 
iOS who is a huge Apple fan say that they don't understand why anybody who has 
a 7 or 7 Plus would want to upgrade to an 8 or 8 Plus. Yes, there is wireless 
charging, the A11 chip and a slightly improved camera, but that's pretty much 
it. I guess if you already pay the big bucks for being on one of those yearly 
upgrade plans it's of course a no-brainer, but in my opinion even 6S and 6S 
Plus users are not really missing out yet. If you have a 6 or 6 Plus the 8 and 
8 Plus are worth taking a look at and if I still was on a 5S I wouldn't even 
think twice unless of course the small size of the 5s was the most important 
thing to me. In that case I would wait until the spring to see if they come out 
with an updated iphone SE which I think is what will happen although I also 
wouldn't be surprised if it primarily had iPhone 7 tech in it as in the A10 
chip, but at least one would expect it gets 3D Touch and the second generation 
Touch Id sensor.
I just read that the 3 large carriers here in Canada have released their 
contract pricing, for all canadian on the list, I'll post another message with 
appropriate subject.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 2:30 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Changes in WatchOS 4

Hi,

I, on the other hand, have the very first generation watch, and I'm excited to 
get the new one. The first generation one is slow and often clicks off when I 
try to use it, so it's becoming increasingly less useful. I don't blame those 
of you with the Series 2 for not upgrading, though.

Cheers,
Anna



> On Sep 23, 2017, at 2:08 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> I completely concur with you, Sieghard.
> 
> I am very happy with my Series two, watch, and do not plan on buying a new 
> one anytime soon.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Changes in WatchOS 4
> 
> This is one of the cases where it is probably not a bad idea to wait for the 
> next generation of LTE Apple Watch just as it was also a good decision to 
> wait for the second generation of the non-LTE version of Apple Watch which is 
> faster and completely waterproof. I would have kicked myself had I bought an 
> Apple Watch as soon as it was first released only to find out a year later a 
> waterproof version is available. An Apple Watch is one of these luxury items 
> one doesn't really need and for me at least it is an item I don't plan to buy 
> every 2 or even 3 years so probably better to let them work out the bugs 
> first.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Changes in WatchOS 4
> 
> I was going to get the new watch that came out yesterday until I listened to 
> Mposen's podcast about the watch.
> Needless to say, I was disappointed in the new watch.
> Siri didn't appear to really work, and it just felt like there were still too 
> many issues with the watch to spend that kind of money for it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 2:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Ioana Gandrabur
> Subject: Re: Changes in WatchOS 4
> 
> Thanks Ioana for this.
> 
> 
> I look forward to getting my series 3 whenever the hell it ships.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 23/09/2017 1:51 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> As far as I know I have not seen many comments about watch os 4 from 
>> vo
> perspective.
>> Here's a good blog about general changes.
>> 
> https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-apple-watch-news/apple-releases-wa
> tchos- 4-bringing-range-enhancements-and-new-features
>> I also added a comment there with the info I'm adding to this message.
>> Any questions or additions very appreciated.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Here is what I found so far:
>> 1. You can now dial phone numbers in the phone app. Before the keypad 
>> was
> not accessible. Pretty sure keypad also works within a call.
>> 2. Time travel in apps is better indicated. In other words you can 
>> enable
> going forward in time for apps like weather or calendar by turning the 
> digital crown and vo will say "time travel" and read the info that changes as 
> you do so.
>> 3. You can now see the heart rate on the complication for heart rate 
>> app
> on your watch face. This means that you can enable auto-speak and get the 
> heart rate easily on the go.
>> 4.
>> Changed how you transfer calls from watch to iPhone. This is I think 
>> more
> to do with iOS 11. When picking up phone call on watch You just have to 
> double-tap on status bar of the phone and the phone call will transfer to 
> phone.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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