Well now, I am sticking with iOS 10. I am not upgrading because there are too 
many bags, battery drain and voiceover not working is two of the biggies.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 3, 2017, at 1:48 AM, dollar...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi,  Sorry for a delay and late to response.  I wanted to add.  There is a 
> very good info on the Applevis website because there is a blog that is 
> explaining the reason.   Www.applevis.com. I am not going to upade either 
> because it is not a very good idea for the braille users too.  Hope this 
> heap.  Cheers,  Scott Dollar 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 28, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Davy Cuppens <davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Nancy
>> 
>> This is my threshhold not to upgrade before a vo fix is coming.
>> There are really too many bugs. Battery drain by voiceover and a very slow 
>> working ios, loss of speech, focus bugs ...
>> A Dutch girl I know has bought a fresh iphone 8 with ios11. and now ios 
>> 11.01 and she has got serious battery drain effect.
>> One Belgian and a Dutch chap updated their 5s and were nolonger able to 
>> start voiceover. In fact vo was running but speech did not come up even not 
>> with a hard reset and toggling. They really had to set their phones back to 
>> factory settings starting from 0 to get their voices back.
>> I heard of some people calling Apple they were told not to update with 
>> voiceover but if you do, configure your phone as a brand new iphone and 
>> start from scratch. In that case people are reporting less bugs or 
>> slugishness but this is eventually not true knowing about friends that 
>> bought fresh new iphones with the use of voiceover.
>> Long live ios10 but I am glad for those that updated and don't care for the 
>> bugs, I DO!
>> 
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Nancy Badger
>> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 7:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: should i upgrade to ios11
>> 
>> I am not updating until the notifications bug is fixed. Just my two cents..
>> Nancy
>> 
>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>> Executive Director of Counseling

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