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> On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:44 AM, Deidre Muccio <deidreandlou...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey there, > No this is not a hardware malfunction issue. This is a discussion of what > Siri can and can't do well or what she does and doesn't do well. It's that > simple. There's certain syntax she requires and questions where she throws it > to the Web when it seems like it could be a direct question easily answered > as prove by people who have cited that Google can do that kind of answering > of a simple question easily. So no I'm saying that it drives me crazy when I > have bothered to put people in my contacts and she doesn't find them I hate > inefficiency, and I hate having to use anymore gestures then would seem > necessary. I love my phone and I use it around the clock every single day so > the less I have to fuss over the stupid stuff the happier I am. I cantfind > any excuse why Siri cannot locate a contact even when the first name is in > the first enter field in the last name is in the last interfield in the > company name is in the company name and the last enter field and so on and > on as verified by others. It seems that the technology should not be that > complicated that the little quirks could be made more seamless. I have high > standards. > > > Deidre > > >> On Nov 13, 2017, at 11:11 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >> >> Hello Deidra, >> >> I'm only now just jumping into this thread but, am I correct in that you are >> unhappy at the speech Recognition of Siri? >> >> If so, then there may be a particular problem with your device. >> >> I and many of my friends use Siri to look up info and make calls on a daily >> basis without any problems, whatsoever. >> >> I say this not to put the blame on you but to suggest that a hardware >> malfunction may be the reason for your difficulties. >> >> If you are using Siri without a headset, then I would suggest that you >> remove your iOS device from any case, to see what happens. >> >> If you are using a headset when talking to Siri, then, perhaps, there is a >> problem with the headset microphone. On several occasions, when Siri failed >> to understand me on a consistent basis, I discovered that the mike had gone >> bad on the headset. In all of those instances, I took my headset into the >> Apple Store where they replaced them, at no additional charge as I always >> have Apple Care Plus. >> >> Just something to consider. >> >> Mark >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Deidre Muccio >> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 7:03 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: 4 Ways to Make Siri Smarter on Your iPhone, CNET >> >> Yes Sieghart I figured out quite some time ago that company name where it >> tells you to put it is not the only place you can put it to have Siri >> recognize it. In fact I don't even bother to enter anything in the company >> field anymore. Yes the first name goes in the first edit field and the last >> name goes in the last name edit field. I got that right to! Sometimes I >> resort to using a nickname because siri seems to recognize those rather >> easily. Anyway your post is bordering on funny though I'm not sure you >> intended it to be. Honestly though some of the questions are so simple and >> so straightahead that I'm flabbergasted at how ill equipped Siri is to >> answer them. As for in putting phone numbers I only do it automatically from >> phone calls that come in. I don't manually input them. So those should be >> correct. And then there's the names that you teach Siri how to pronounce and >> when you pronounce them exactly like she's learned to pronounce them she >> still brings up five other names on top of it all. Makes no sense to me. And >> then sometimes she doesn't even recognize the name that you've already >> taught her to pronounce. >> Are the accessibility features on the Google phones still really much poorer >> than those on the iPhone? Is that why so many of us are still using the >> iPhones? >> >> Deidre >> >> >>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>> >>> OK, I wouldn't go quite that far, I don't think SIRI works any worse now >>> than it did last year or when I had my 4S and in fact it is smarter in that >>> you can ask it to make a Whats App call or order an Uber for you and so on, >>> but when it comes to general knowledge and information it still has a ways >>> to go. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Michael Irons >>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:13 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: 4 Ways to Make Siri Smarter on Your iPhone, CNET >>> >>> I agree with everything you said! Siri works less well with each passing >>> day. Siri works better when I had my four is. Siri tells me nothing! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Kay Malmquist <kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes! Yes! yes! Thank you for saying what I have been feeling for >>>> quite some time about siri. She, he or it is in my opinion, getting >>>> more and more dense. Seems to me when I first got my 4 S years ago, >>>> siri was much more, dare I say intelligent? Not so any more and I >>>> more often than not resort to other apps to find things out. >>>> >>>> Kay Malmquist >>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca> >>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:46 AM >>>> Subject: RE: 4 Ways to Make Siri Smarter on Your iPhone, CNET >>>> >>>> >>>> Can you give a few examples? Are these phone numbers for people or >>>> for companies? If they are for companies, do you put the name only in >>>> the Company field? If so you have to also add it to Last Name because >>>> SIRI is so stupid (and has been for years) that it doesn't search the >>>> company field only, the company has to be also written in the last name >>>> field. >>>> If they are people, do you correctly put their first name in the >>>> first name field and their last name in the last name field? >>>> Do you enter phone numbers in the correct format, it is best to use >>>> the international format even for numbers that are local to you, here >>>> is an >>>> example: >>>> Instead of just "1" you should put +1. You get the plus symbol when >>>> entering a phone number by tapping the shift key to the right of the >>>> 0, then the 0 becomes the plus symbol. >>>> Now enter the number all without spaces, iOS will format it with >>>> parenthesis around the area code and put a dash after the first 3 >>>> digits of the 7-digit phone number. >>>> When it comes to people I have no issues whatsoever when I ask SIRI >>>> to call somebody unless it's a very unusually pronounced name, but >>>> when it comes to companies SIRI can definitely be very stupid. >>>> Especially in iOS 11 even if a number is in muy contacts SIRI will go >>>> and try to look it up online, I fail to see what is so hard to first >>>> get SIRI to look at your contacts to see if there is a match. >>>> If I do ask SIRI to call a business which I know is not in my >>>> contacts at times SIRI is so stupid that if the business is a chain >>>> it will give me locations in all the cities in a 200 mile radius but >>>> not the one that is half a mile away. >>>> I unfortunately have not noticed much improvement with SIRI in iOS 11 >>>> and I just don't get it how Apple continue to not get this to work. >>>> Here an example. I live in a small town called Smithers. Apart from >>>> some private liquor stores we also still have government run liquor >>>> stores here in British Columbia If I ask SIRI "Phone number for BC >>>> Liquor Store in Smithers" it tells me here is the number and then >>>> proceeds to give me the number of the BC Liquor Store in Burns Lake, >>>> a much smaller town about 2 hours drive from here. >>>> If I ask Google using the exact same wording "Phone number for BC >>>> Liquor Store in Smithers" I get the correct local phone number. >>>> Last night my wife who is from the Philippines and I were talking >>>> about an article about Jolliebee which is a huge fast food franchise >>>> in the Philippines and they are expanding into other countries now >>>> including the US, Canada, China and some european countries. They are >>>> in fact the 9th largest fast food chain in the world. Anyhow, my wife >>>> was wondering if they were around before McDonalds. I assumed >>>> correctly that McDonalds was started much earlier, but that possibly >>>> they expanded to the Philippines after Jolliebee came into existance. So I >>>> asked SIRI "When was McDonalds founded". >>>> Of course I received the usual reply "I found something on the web >>>> about when was McDonalds founded, take a look". Maybe the answer was >>>> there and a sighted person may have seen it and might be happy with >>>> the answer. I just ignored it and opened Google, asked the exact same >>>> question and received a spoken answer, short and to the point. >>>> I then even asked "When was the first McDonalds started in the >>>> Philippines" >>>> and received the answer "According to McDonalds it was in 1981 when >>>> somebody (forgot the name" started the first Mcdonalds franchise in the >>>> Philippines". >>>> At the same time Google told me that Jolliebee was started in the >>>> Manila in 1975. >>>> Maybe it's the lack of access Apple has to Google why SIRI can answer >>>> so many fewer questions, but I guess Apple should be able to make a >>>> deal with Bing or some other search engine to find such answers >>>> online, maybe they should just buy DuckDuckGo, it's not like they don't >>>> have enough money. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sieghard >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Deidre Muccio >>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 4:18 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: 4 Ways to Make Siri Smarter on Your iPhone, CNET >>>> >>>> And how can I make Siri as smart as a Bumblebee when I ask her to >>>> dial or call a phone number that is already in my contacts? Half the >>>> time she acts like those contacts do not exist. >>>> >>>> Deidre >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 1:48 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> CNET How To - Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 5:00 AM >>>>> 4 ways to make Siri smarter on your iPhone - CNET Sure, Siri sounds >>>>> a bit less like a robot in iOS 11, but Apple's digital assistant >>>>> still fails to understand me and mispronounces names. Siri is also >>>>> more useful if she (my Siri has a British female voice, so I'll >>>>> refer to Siri as a "she" here) knows my daily haunts and connects >>>>> with any supported apps. >>>>> Learn four easy ways to improve Siri's smarts. >>>>> 1. >>>>> Train Siri to hear you better >>>>> If you have the "Hey Siri" feature enabled and Siri frequently fails >>>>> to spring to life when you utter the magic words, then it's time to >>>>> start over and retrain Siri. Go to Settings > Siri & Search and >>>>> toggle the switch off and back on again for Listen for "Hey Siri." >>>>> You'll go through the setup process again of training Siri to recognize >>>>> your voice. >>>>> Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET >>>>> >>>>> 2. >>>>> Connect apps like Uber and Lyft to Siri Apple opened up Siri to >>>>> third-party apps with iOS 10 but supported apps are still few and >>>>> far between. And Siri is shy with such apps, waiting on you to make >>>>> the introduction before they begin talking to one another. To check >>>>> if an app has Siri support, go to Settings > Siri & Search and tap >>>>> on an app from the list. If you see a toggle switch for Use with >>>>> Siri, then the app is supported. Toggle it on and you can, for >>>>> example, ask Siri to get you an Uber or a Lyft without touching either >>>>> app. >>>>> Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET >>>>> >>>>> 3. >>>>> Correct Siri when she's wrong >>>>> Siri makes her best guess at pronouncing names but, like teachers on >>>>> the first day of school and John Travolta at awards shows, doesn't >>>>> always get it right. You can, however, teach Siri how to correctly >>>>> pronounce names in your Contacts. >>>>> Siri, for example, goes 0 for 2 with Charlize Theron's name, >>>>> butchering both the Oscar winner's first and last names. Tell Siri >>>>> to "learn how to pronounce Charlize Theron" or if she has >>>>> mispronounced it already, you can say, "That's not how you say that." >>>>> Siri will quickly get over any embarrassment and ask, "OK, how do >>>>> you pronounce the name (Charlize)?" Say the name correctly, and Siri >>>>> will listen and offer you a few pronunciation choices. You can play >>>>> each option and select the one that sounds the best. After sorting >>>>> out the first name, Siri will then take you through the same process >>>>> for the last name. >>>>> Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET >>>>> >>>>> 4. >>>>> Tell Siri where you live and work >>>>> My favorite kind of reminders are location-based reminders. "Remind >>>>> me to change over the laundry when I get home" or "Remind me to buy >>>>> milk when I leave work" or "Remind me to drop off that form when I >>>>> get to school." >>>>> Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET >>>>> In order for Siri to perform this location-based magic, she needs to >>>>> know where you live, work and go to school. You'll also need to >>>>> enable location services for reminders. >>>>> First, open Contacts, find your listing, tap Edit and then tap add >>>>> address. >>>>> You there are labels for home and work but you can add a custom >>>>> label that Siri will understand such as "school." >>>>> The second step is go to Settings > Privacy > Location Services and >>>>> make sure location services are turned on (toggle switch at the top) >>>>> and enabled for Reminders (scroll down until you find it in your >>>>> list of apps). >>>>> Read more: Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 >>>>> >>>>> Original Article At: >>>>> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/4-ways-to-make-siri-smarter-on-your-ipho >>>>> n >>>>> e >>>>> /#ftag >>>>> =CAD5457c2c >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>>>> iPhone list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>> itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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