I would consider myself to be a pretty advanced and experience iPhone user 
after 8 years of using the things, but when I played with an iPhone X in early 
November at the Apple Store in Calgary I found the same thing, I could not get 
the gesture to exit an app and return to the home screen to work until I 
finally realized I was doing it too slowly. Once I had that figured out I could 
do it reliably and quickly 100% of the time. As I said, it just means getting 
used to a few new things.

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Apple Nerd
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone X and first impressions...

So I got to play around with one on Friday and I've noticed it's really 
sensitive. But I really like how it feels in the hand but the phone is kind of 
slippery. anyways, The main issue I was having was swiping up to the home 
screen. I was able to unlock the phone but in apps like messages I couldn't 
find the home indicator. but other than that I really love the phone even 
though I only had it for about 15 minutes. 

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> On Dec 4, 2017, at 9:37 PM, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> While getting no benefit from the snazzy screen, I now understand why 
> some blind people would spend the extra money on the iPhone X. It is 
> futuristic. This will be the design and interface that will eventually 
> be incorporated into all iPhones. Some want to live the future now 
> rather than later.
> 
> Kelly
> 
>> On 12/4/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> It's interesting how the lack of the home button and having to learn 
>> the new gestures seems to bother some people a lot. I think it's not 
>> so different from learning how to use a touch screen device in the 
>> first place, I know several people who fought it hand and foot, but 
>> when they finally had to choice and got an iPhone and learned how to 
>> use it they were for the most part completely happy with the way it 
>> works and how accessible it is. I think looking back a few years from 
>> now not having a home button and Touch Id any more will be the same 
>> thing, we may look back on it with some font memories but we'll have 
>> moved on and will be using the new devices with equal ease. I'm sure 
>> Apple won't stop making things better and easier even though I am 
>> equally sure we'll continue to deal with nasty bugs along the way and all 
>> that.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Michael Maslo
>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 3:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone X and first impressions...
>> 
>> Hi Scott, I loved the iPhone X. I had a working perfectly with Apple 
>> Pay and we're buying stuff from the App Store. It is fun and easy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 4:27 PM, Scott Rumery <blindfait...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ed,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I couldn’t agree with you more about the iPhone X. I have been using 
>>> mine for 2 weeks now and every time I pick it up I am just amazed at 
>>> hoe much I love using it. There is a little bit of a learning curve 
>>> with this phone but after you have it for an hour or so that 
>>> learning curve will be no more. Even my wife who is also blind was 
>>> very nervous about using an iPhone without a Home button but she took right 
>>> to it very quickly.
>>> 
>>> I am having one issue with it however. I cannot seem to use the 
>>> AppStore with FaceID or for that matter when I set up ApplePay Cash 
>>> earlier on my iPhone X I couldn’t use FaceID for that either . When 
>>> I try and use it with FaceID on VoiceOver will say Double Click to 
>>> Install or Double Click to pay but when I do that nothing happens. 
>>> Are you able to use these with FaceID on your phone?
>>> Scott Rumery
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> 
>>>> I have recently received my beautiful new iPhone X. I love the 
>>>> design of this phone. The glass front and metal sides are what I 
>>>> loved about my first iPhone, the iPhone 4. I have been waiting for 
>>>> years for Apple to go back to this design.
>>>> 
>>>> I have heard a ton of chatter about why the iPhone is not the phone 
>>>> for everyone, and why the iPhone 8 is better, but I am extremely 
>>>> glad that I went with the iPhone X. This phone has made me fall in 
>>>> love with the iPhone interface and the sheer quality of Apple’s 
>>>> craftsmanship all over again. I am completely blind and I have to 
>>>> use VoiceOver. The new home buttonless interface was a trick for 
>>>> about the first 20 to 30 mins I had the device. After that the 
>>>> gestures to unlock the phone and even get to the Notification Center or 
>>>> the control center  has become second nature.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Closing apps….
>>>> 
>>>> To close apps you will need to find the lower most part of the 
>>>> touch screen (The Home Indicator), you will hear VoiceOver make a 
>>>> little popping sound, and you will also feel the haptic feedback 
>>>> pop once as well. You then start to drag your finger up the screen 
>>>> and you will hear and feel  another pop. This second pop will 
>>>> indicate that you have performed the exit gesture properly, and you 
>>>> now should be back on your home screen.
>>>> 
>>>> Opening the App Switcher….
>>>> To open the App Switcher, you will have to find the lower most part 
>>>> of the touch screen (Home Indicator). You will drag your finger up 
>>>> the screen just like exiting out of an app, you will hear and feel 
>>>> the same indicators as exiting an application, this time though you 
>>>> will keep draggingg past the exit app sound and haptic feedback. 
>>>> You will then keep dragging up to about the middle of the touch 
>>>> screen and you will hear and feel another indication letting you 
>>>> know that you are now opening the app switcher. Now you can use the 
>>>> typical gestures you normally use to close apps completely.
>>>> 
>>>> Control Center and Notification Center…
>>>> 
>>>> Getting in to the Control Center and Notification Center is much 
>>>> like exiting apps and getting into the App Switcher. Find the 
>>>> status bar at the top of the screen and  You will do a one finger 
>>>> drag down the screen you will hear and feel the pop once your finger is on 
>>>> the status bar.
>>>> Drag down and you will hear and feel the first pop to let you know 
>>>> you are passing the control center, stop dragging if you want to 
>>>> activate the control center, keep dragging until you hear and feel 
>>>> a pop to get to the Notification Center. Once you are in either the 
>>>> Control center or the Notification Center you can use your standard 
>>>> group of VoiceOver gestures.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Over All I really love this phone and it has made me love using iOS 
>>>> again. The buttonless world is upon us and it isn’t all that scary. 
>>>> Come in the water is fine.
>>>> 
>>>> Ed Worrell
>>>> 
>>>> Co-Founder/CEO
>>>> OverHere Consulting LLP
>>>> “Bringing Technology into Sight”
>>>> Https://overhereconsulting.net
>>>> Read our Blog: https://overhereconsulting.net/blog
>>>> Listen to our Podcast: https://overhereconsulting.net/podcast
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