Denny,

What writing was that? Also, I couldn't find a novel idea in the app
store. Do you have a link?

Just as a point of information, I was going to try the writer app, but
every time I tap the more tab the app causes my phone to freeze.

On 12/7/17, Denny Schwab <denny.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Writing App I mentioned is set up to help you write a novel.  You
> can create Characters, Chapters, and put together Items and other
> things.  It collects all of these into Novels.  A Novel Idea did the
> same sort of thing, but also added in the ability to link characters
> and ideas to multiple novels, and let you set up relationships between
> characters.  Both are much more than just a word processor.
>
> Denny
>
> On 12/7/17, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>> Mark,
>> Voice Dream Writer allows for text markup so your final document can be
>> exported with headings, bullets, etc.
>> You can export to RTF or Word.
>> You can navigate and edit by headings, paragraphs or sentences.
>> It has a great spell checker, and more.
>> Here is the link:
>> Voice Dream Writer by Voice Dream LLC
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-dream-writer/id920583100?mt=8
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
>> flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> 🖖🏿
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2017, at 11:51 AM, M. Taylor
>> <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Rich and Everyone,
>>
>> I’m afraid this thread has me a bit baffled.
>>
>> When you speak of a, writing app, do you mean a word processor?
>>
>> Also, does anyone have the link to Writer as I would like to take a look
>> at
>> it?
>>
>> Do these writing apps offer some extra features not available in Pages or
>> Word?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 6:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Free Writing App?
>>
>>
>> Writer is $9.99 but well worth it in my opinion.
>> I know nothing about Scribner.
>> MS-Word is free, but not very user friendly with VoiceOver. It is almost
>> impossible to keep track of where you are in a document.
>> It might be a little better than Pages, but not great.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2017, at 5:39 AM, K. Scott Carlson
>> <kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> It seems like the top ones that people recommend are Scrivener,
>> VoiceDream
>> Writer and MS Word.
>>
>> On 12/6/2017 8:40 PM, Michael Feir wrote:
>> I completely get that feeling. However, they make a pretty good case.
>> Good
>> enough to convince me at any rate. I'm in this for the long haul. I want
>> a
>> tool which will not suddenly disappear or be left to age ungracefully.
>> Not
>> so long ago, there were some wonderful audio games which even had famous
>> voice actors like Sean Bean as narrators. They're gone now because the
>> developers couldn't make enough profit to keep in business making games.
>> Papa Sangre and Audio Defence can't be bought anymore and you'd need
>> older
>> hardware to run them. I never got to win any of those games before they
>> reached the point where they wouldn't work on new versions of iOS. That's
>> what can happen when you pay once and everyone else interested has also
>> paid
>> once.
>>
>> The subscription model gives them the income they need to keep working on
>> Ulysses in a more considered way than with other apps. With a one-time
>> feee,
>> you buy what you get but there's no funds or obligation for the developer
>> to
>> keep working on it. Also, in order to attract more customers, you need to
>> make big changes with that in mind rather than the more considered
>> changes
>> you make when you rely on people sticking with you who like what you
>> offered
>> at the time you subscribed.
>>
>> When I've put in tech support requests, I've gotten consistantly
>> reasonable
>> good responses. They're a small company but they really care about
>> problems
>> faced by subscribers. I don't think blind people make a huge percentage
>> of
>> their subscribers but they nevertheless address accessibility issues as
>> that's possible. Frankly, I'm in this out of pure interest to see how a
>> steady income changes app development and mind set for these folks. I
>> want
>> to see how thing develop over the years presuming they manage to last.
>> They['ve gotten tonds of attention from writers so I think they have a
>> very
>> good chance of staying the corse and keeping their subscribers happy.
>>
>> Anyhow, that's why I got on board. It's not perfect. There's a movement
>> lag
>> when yo first move onto a document with Voiceover. However, writing works
>> fine but they're going to improve movement of the cursor with VoiceOver
>> as
>> soon as they can. It's good enough that I'm more than willing to put up
>> with
>> a few things in order to have the rest. I'll keep an ear on this threas
>> to
>> see what other people may have found when it comes to writing apps.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:08 PM kelby carlson
>> <kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I totally understand a subscription model for a service like Spotify
>> where
>> you're paying for access to a catalog. But not with something like a
>> writing
>> tool for personal use; a one-time charge makes more sense from my
>> perspective.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Michael Feir
>> <michael.f...@gmail.com<mailto:michael.f...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I personally find Ulysses worth the subscription. It'll be even more the
>> case once they deal with a touch of cluggishness navigating with
>> VoiceOver.
>> That's on the agenda. One alternative you may want to check out is Bear.
>> I
>> don't believe it's a subscription model app. There's also Scrivener.
>> Pages
>> from Apple is their free word processor. I didn't like it but others may
>> find it suits them. You might also want to try Microsoft Word which is
>> free
>> on iOS. Hope that helps.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:30 PM Stephanie Mitchell
>> <natureloving...@gmail.com<mailto:natureloving...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I use byword. It is similar but a little cheaper.
>>
>> Steph
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: K. Scott Carlson
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Date: 12/07/2017 08:19 AM
>> Subject: Free Writing App?
>>
>> Does anyone have any recommendations for either a free or inexpensive
>> writing app that is accessible? I was thinking of getting Ulysses but I
>> don't want to pay a subscription fee for an app like that.
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