Hi Candy; This happens every so often on every blind list. Just separate the wheat from the chef and you’ll be fine God bless Anthony
Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8+!!! > On Dec 18, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Peg, I am in total agreement with you. Just aggravates me so much because I > am 67 years old and grew up with relatively no technology at all. Now things > are so much better and yet it appears that some of the blind people are never > satisfied. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 18, 2017, at 12:51 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, >> I think it’s very interesting that some blind people complain when they >> don’t get what they think they need, and yet when they get something there >> very ungrateful and continuously complain about it. >> We all need to work together and figure things out and improve what we have >> and strive to find new ways to help others and do new things. >> >> Peggy Sent from my IPhone. >> >> >>> On Dec 18, 2017, at 12:05 PM, 'Martin Maidment' via VIPhone >>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hands up to Richard. I totally agree. >>> The thought of being able to read hand writing has always been just a dream. >>> As Richard has said. If you have been totally blind for all your life or >>> most of your life this technology it great. >>> We take what we can get and Seeing AI is giving it all to us. >>> >>> I know a friend who has slowly been losing their sight and is now having to >>> use OCR technology and thinks it isn't that good. >>> >>> Who started off with a Kurzwil Scanner at £10,000 30 years ago? We have >>> suffered through technology changing. And everyday it gets just that >>> little bit better to me it's a huge mile stone. >>> >>> Enjoy what we have got because you would not have coped 30 years ago. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Richard Turner >>> Sent: 18 December 2017 15:54 >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI >>> >>> >>> So, instead of recognizing that for the very first time, people who are >>> blind have been given access to handwriting, you are going to focus on what >>> it cannot do? >>> This is a revolutionary step toward accessibility for people without sight. >>> Now, if you want to write the developer and make a request that they work >>> on allowing a way to combine the Document Channel, with the handwriting, >>> fine. But as far as I'm concerned, Microsoft deserves nothing but praise >>> for this huge step forward. And, since the person at Microsoft who >>> spearheaded this app is blind, he probably is already working on >>> recognition in forms. >>> >>> Just my opinion. >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> >>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with >>> it." -- Jane Wagner >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Choosing handwriting mode wont read printed text, it doesn't make any >>>> sence specially when we are reading some kind of forms where few >>>> entries have been filled in handwriting. For example, , whether >>>> written name is persons name or his father's name, is not clear . >>>> >>>>> On 12/18/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>>>> Hi Andy, >>>>> >>>>> Quite a few people have reported very good results, why propose it’s >>>>> not working before you try it? >>>>> I’m sure it depends a great deal on the person’s handwriting, but >>>>> apparently if the handwriting is relatively normal it does a great >>>>> job. One thing that is mentioned when you switch to that channel for >>>>> the first time is that the writing has to be right side up, I assume >>>>> those who get no results at all might have it upside down or >>>>> sideways, but there aren’t that many possibilities so one just has to >>>>> keep rotating the paper if it doesn’t work at first. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Sieghard >>>>> >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>> Behalf Of Dave >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:54 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI >>>>> >>>>> no, it works. >>>>> >>>>> Dave. >>>>> >>>>> From: Andy Baracco<mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 2:04 AM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI >>>>> >>>>> I shouldn't speak about this without trying it, but with all of the >>>>> variables involved in handwriting, I can't imagine being able to >>>>> trust this capability. It seems like a kind of parlar game, but i hope >>>>> that I'm wrong. >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:22 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI >>>>> >>>>> You know you have to have the writing right side up. >>>>> Richard >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with >>>>> it." >>>>> -- Jane Wagner >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 16, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Dave >>>>> <dave.beckett...@gmail.com<mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> Hi rebecca, >>>>> >>>>> Just tried my seeing AI, with a christmas card, and the hand writing >>>>> channel, and it did really well. >>>>> >>>>> I don’t use a stand, just held the phone, about 12 inches or so above >>>>> the card. >>>>> >>>>> Dave. >>>>> >>>>> From: Rebecca Ilniski<mailto:rilni...@icloud.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:09 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: RE: hand writing recognition with seeing AI >>>>> >>>>> I attempted to read a Christmas card and couldn’t get it to read for >>>>> me. 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