Hi Candy;
This happens every so often on every blind list.
Just separate the wheat from the chef and you’ll be fine God bless Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8+!!!

> On Dec 18, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Candy Lowe <candyrl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Peg, I am in total agreement with you. Just aggravates me so much because I 
> am 67 years old and grew up with relatively no technology at all. Now things 
> are so much better and yet it appears that some of the blind people are never 
> satisfied.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2017, at 12:51 PM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I think it’s very interesting that some blind people complain when they 
>> don’t get what they think they need, and yet when they get something there 
>> very ungrateful and continuously complain about it.
>> We all need to work together and figure things out and improve what we have 
>> and strive to find new ways to help others and do new things.
>> 
>> Peggy Sent from my IPhone.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2017, at 12:05 PM, 'Martin Maidment' via VIPhone 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hands up to Richard.  I totally agree.
>>> The thought of being able to read hand writing has always been just a dream.
>>> As Richard has said.  If you have been totally blind for all your life or 
>>> most of your life this technology it great.
>>> We take what we can get and Seeing AI is giving it all to us.
>>> 
>>> I know a friend who has slowly been losing their sight and is now having to 
>>> use OCR technology and thinks it isn't that good.
>>> 
>>> Who started off with a Kurzwil Scanner at £10,000 30 years ago?  We have 
>>> suffered through technology changing.  And everyday it gets just that 
>>> little bit better to me it's a huge mile stone.
>>> 
>>> Enjoy what we have got because you would not have coped 30 years ago.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Martin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: 18 December 2017 15:54
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So, instead of recognizing that for the very first time, people who are 
>>> blind have been given access to handwriting, you are going to focus on what 
>>> it cannot do?
>>> This is a revolutionary step toward accessibility for people without sight.
>>> Now, if you want to write the developer and make a request that they work 
>>> on allowing a way to combine the Document Channel, with the handwriting, 
>>> fine. But as far as I'm concerned, Microsoft deserves nothing but praise 
>>> for this huge step forward. And, since the person at Microsoft who 
>>> spearheaded this app is blind, he probably is already working on 
>>> recognition in forms.
>>> 
>>> Just my opinion.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it." -- Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 17, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Choosing handwriting mode wont read printed text, it doesn't make any 
>>>> sence specially when we are reading some kind of forms where few 
>>>> entries have been filled in handwriting. For example, , whether 
>>>> written name is persons name or his father's name, is not clear .
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/18/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Quite a few people have reported very good results, why propose it’s 
>>>>> not working before you try it?
>>>>> I’m sure it depends a great deal on the person’s handwriting, but 
>>>>> apparently if the handwriting is relatively normal it does a great 
>>>>> job. One thing that is mentioned when you switch to that channel for 
>>>>> the first time is that the writing has to be right side up, I assume 
>>>>> those who get no results at all might have it upside down or 
>>>>> sideways, but there aren’t that many possibilities so one just has to 
>>>>> keep rotating the paper if it doesn’t work at first.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Dave
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 10:54 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>>>>> 
>>>>> no, it works.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Andy Baracco<mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 2:04 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>>>>> 
>>>>> I shouldn't speak about this without trying it, but with all of the 
>>>>> variables involved in handwriting, I can't imagine being able to 
>>>>> trust this capability. It seems like a kind of parlar game, but i hope 
>>>>> that I'm wrong.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:22 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>>>>> 
>>>>> You know you have to have the writing right side up.
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>>>> it."
>>>>> -- Jane Wagner
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 16, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Dave
>>>>> <dave.beckett...@gmail.com<mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi rebecca,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just tried my seeing AI, with a christmas card, and the hand writing 
>>>>> channel, and it did really well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don’t use a stand, just held the phone, about 12 inches or so above 
>>>>> the card.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Rebecca Ilniski<mailto:rilni...@icloud.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:09 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: RE: hand writing recognition with seeing AI
>>>>> 
>>>>> I attempted to read a Christmas card and couldn’t get it to read for 
>>>>> me.  I used the scan stand so that I could make sure I put the camera 
>>>>> and document straight also.  I did have it on the handwriting channel.
>>>>> Rebecca and guide dog Zeb
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>>>>> Twitter: applegirl1994
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