Hi,
No worries that's why I included a laugh in parentheses in lieu of an
emoticon. I'm just glad there are many choices to suit different
circumstances and tastes. MBNO's, prepaid plans, lease like or payment plan
type contracts or the ability to not succumb to the latest and greatest.
whether it's with off the shelf tech or blind specific devices I'm just glad
for as many options as humanly possible. That is always a good thing as is
saving money or at the very least fitting comfortably into one's budget too.
Take good care.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
Robin, didn't mean to offer any offence, I honestly thought there was some
leasing plan offered by the manufacturer that allowed you to lease your
phone for a certain amount every month, then upgrade when a new iteration of
your device was released, sort of like I had wish that Window eyes would do,
until they quickly went out of business when my Jaws SMA was up. LOL.
I was also saying this because if the manufacturers were offering such an
offer, I would take advantage of it in a heartbeat. LOL.
I'm also kind of really jealous. I told Sieghard offer-list that until a
month ago, I was paying upwards of 130 dollars Canadian for my plan which
offered me six gigs of data, visual voicemail, unlimited calling to the US
and Canada, and global texting. I paid that amount for several years,
almost a decade until I switched to Android and was able to change and get a
better deal with a more local carrier. I was reading about all the
incredible plans people were getting from the US, and some in Canada, and
that green giant, Jealousy, would inevitably lurch up and chomp my ass for
staying with the same ridiculous plan for so many years.
What's worse is that on top of that, I was making all kinds of excuses as to
why I was continuing to pay that much until I realized they were just that,
excuses. LOL.
Victor
-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
Hi,
Goodness gracious me I wasn't aware I'd walked into a pop quiz on semantics
this night (laughs). While it's true there are early termination fees with
these perhaps more aptly termed plans or contracts as you say since I hadn't
plans to switch carriers or the like they work for me. This year I'll pay
precisely $444 for the use of my device for 12 months plus its associated
sales taxes. the other associated costs of my plan such as line charges data
and other sundry surcharges levied upon us by governmental entities would
remain as they are regardless.
I only used the term lease for in my estimation that which I'm doing with my
device is no different than that which those I know who lease vehicles are
doing in essence hence the use albeit not so precise terminology. I hope
that clarifies. By no means am I saying this is the best option for anyone
merely that which I chose and mentioned in the context of explaining why my
battery issues might not mirror those of others due to their age.
Take good care.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
Those are not leases, those are commitments and usually go with plans.
I was under the impression these device leases were separate from the plan,
and one gets to upgrade every year or new release, which ever comes first.
What you describe is no different from the contracts currently offered now.
Is this new terminology being used for commitments or contracts?
Victor
-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
Hi,
It is through my carrier Many of the carriers in the USA offer plans whereby
you can make monthly payments and either upgrade after 12 or 24 months.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
Robin, is this leasing plan from the manufacturer or the carrier?
Victor
-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
Hi,
Hardly (laughs). I just use one of the plans that let you lease as it were
the device and upgrade annually so I don't have to pay anything up front and
never in fact reach paying the entire cost of one before trading it in
(smile).
If I win the lottery I'll buy you an iPhone annually if you buy me new
windows and siding when you win how's that (smile)?
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
Hey Robin, a new iPhone every year, you must be loaded, how about you buy me
an iPhone X, 256 Gb please *smile*
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
Hi,
While I don't dispute that which was said by an employee of Apple I have to
say I have an iPhone here that spends most of its life on its charger as
it's my beta testing unit and for the past 18 months it's had not one single
problem or displayed any evidence of swelling. I should also note that my
units are usually upgraded annually so I'm never working with older
batteries either.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: MamaPeach
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
This actually happened with two of my iPods, one was a 5 generation and one
was a 6, I had the 6th generation one fixed, but not the 5th generation. I
had them both plugged up most of the time and the tech said that it was me
keeping the device plugged up all the time that was the problem. Why else
would the battery swell on two different generations of iPods? What else
could have caused it if not keeping them plugged up? The 6th generation was
fairly new. I wanted to get them both fixed, but just the one cost me $150
to get repaired.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
My laptop is always plugged in since I rarely use it away from the house and
the same was true with my previousl laptop and even after over 5 years it
still holds a decent charge when I do unplug it.
As other said, modern batteries can handle this easily and the problem with
the battery that swelled surely was a different issue and would eventually
have happened regardless. After all look at the Note 7 disaster where
devices which weren't even plugged in at all burst into flames.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Arrigo
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time
It could harm older battery technologies such as NICD, but with lithium ion
batteries, when the battery is charged, the charging circuit turns off,
there is no such thing as a trickle charge for these kinds of batteries, so
leaving it connected to a charger should be fine.
Original message:
Hello everyone
Does it do more harm than good if I leave my iPhone 8 on a charger all
the time?
I have read somewhere that phones and tablets only have so many:
charge cycles before they can't hold a charge anymore.
I have been told by apple that they recommend not: fully discharge the
device but top it up regularly. However, I wasn't sure about leaving
it on the charger for all of the time. Obviously though, I would take
it off if I had to go out somewhere.
Thanks in advance for anyone who can clear up if leaving on charge is
either good: or bad for the overall health of an iPhone 8 battery.
Daniel
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