Nobody forces you to upgrade although in my opinion a smartphone's lifespan is limited just as the lifespan of a laptop although it can be somewhat longer. I think a recently current iPhone can easily run for 4 or 5 years and if after 3 or 4 years you change the battery maybe longer, it would be an interesting experiment, biut most people get rid of their phones after a couple of years and many are now on these annual upgrade plans. As for the temperatures in Canada that depends, move to Vancouver or even better Victoria pon Vancouver Island and you will rarely see snow or temperatures below freezing. Unfortunately Vancouver is also one of the most expensive cities in Canada and, for that matter, in the world when it comes to rents and real estate.
Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deidre Muccio Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 5:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Phone pricing/upgrading, was: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time I want to move to Canada! Too bad it's a little colder there than where I am in Massachusetts. I need to come up there and start exploring around! Anyway nice post. I especially like your comment about touch screen commands and being able to activate something while the phone is in your pocket. I really don't have any use for myself or any of the added features on smart phones because I don't do banking or anything particularly sophisticated on my phone. My favorite apps our podcast calendar Facebook that all the reading programs for the blind, Scanning programs, tune in radio, camera photos is great but honestly just just don't have any use for much more than that. I really wish there was not this continual race to upgrade, Or let me just say that it holds no use for me personally. Deidre > On Jan 13, 2018, at 12:37 AM, Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That and with the rumored second gen SE phone, upgrading for better > performance without having to pay a premium price for features that we may > not be able to use to its fullest at a more reasonable amount becomes a much > more attractive option. > The wife's got the latest iPad Pro and is perfectly happy with her SE. If > another SE comes out, I'm probably going to give that one a hard look-see > since I prefer the smaller size and am loathed to give up the finger print > feature. She prefers to upgrade her iPad from time to time rather than having > the latest and greatest phone. She's probably going to keep that phone till > it gives up the ghost. We'll likely get the batteries swapped out this year > so that'll only help too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:59 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Phone pricing/upgrading, was: Harming battery if left on a > charger all the time > > The fact is that if you upgrade every year one way or another the carrier or > Apple or whoever flips the bill on the phone will make you pay and just like > a Casino, the house always wins. I guess if a new phone every year is your > thing then it's probably worth it for you. Since I bought my first iPhone 4 > in 2010 I upgraded once the next year and that was in 2011 when the iPhone 4S > with SIRI came out. After that I always kept my phone for 2 years, my next on > was a 5S in 2013 and then a 6S Plus in 2015. This time for the first time I > am keeping my 6S Plus for a third year and given how much I like that phone, > how well it works and considering that at some point this year I'll pay Apple > the $35 Canadian to get a new battery put in I might very well keep it for a > fourth year when this fall comes around. Apple must do something pretty cool > this fall to make me upgrade, yes, wireless charging is tempting, but while > Face Id is cool, I also really like Touch Id and how it allows me to unlock > my phone while it's in my belt holster or inside my jacket pocket. > As the phones mature and truly revolutionary designs and features don't > happen as often I find the need to upgrade less urgent. My wife has a 6S and > we are both out of contract and with an MVNO here in Canada, Koodo, where we > have unlimited Canada wide calling and texting along with basic voice mail > and 6 Gb of data each for $49 + taxes, total of $54.88. Recently all 3 of the > large carriers, Rogers, Bell and Telus, offered a promo which lasted only a > few days and for $60 you were able to get the unlimited calling and texting > along with 10 Gb of data which isn't bad at all, but we rarely use even 2 Gb > a month unless we are away for a longer period of time and even then 6 Gb is > quite a bit. The usual price here in Canada for something like what we have > is at least $30 a month more if you are on a 2-year contract, this means over > 2 years that is 720 and if I keep my phone for a third year that goes up to > $1,080 which means I save the full purchase price of an iPhone 8 in that > time. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Victor Gouveia > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:34 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time > > Those are not leases, those are commitments and usually go with plans. > > I was under the impression these device leases were separate from the plan, > and one gets to upgrade every year or new release, which ever comes first. > > What you describe is no different from the contracts currently offered now. > Is this new terminology being used for commitments or contracts? > > Victor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Frost > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:09 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time > > Hi, > It is through my carrier Many of the carriers in the USA offer plans whereby > you can make monthly payments and either upgrade after 12 or 24 months. > Robin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Victor Gouveia > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:56 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time > > Robin, is this leasing plan from the manufacturer or the carrier? > > Victor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Frost > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:44 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time > > Hi, > Hardly (laughs). I just use one of the plans that let you lease as it were > the device and upgrade annually so I don't have to pay anything up front and > never in fact reach paying the entire cost of one before trading it in > (smile). > If I win the lottery I'll buy you an iPhone annually if you buy me new > windows and siding when you win how's that (smile)? > Robin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 6:47 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time > > Hey Robin, a new iPhone every year, you must be loaded, how about you > buy me an iPhone X, 256 Gb please *smile* > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Robin Frost > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 3:27 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time > > Hi, > While I don't dispute that which was said by an employee of Apple I have to > say I have an iPhone here that spends most of its life on its charger as it's > my beta testing unit and for the past 18 months it's had not one single > problem or displayed any evidence of swelling. I should also note that my > units are usually upgraded annually so I'm never working with older batteries > either. > Robin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MamaPeach > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:59 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time > > This actually happened with two of my iPods, one was a 5 generation and one > was a 6, I had the 6th generation one fixed, but not the 5th generation. I > had them both plugged up most of the time and the tech said that it was me > keeping the device plugged up all the time that was the problem. Why else > would the battery swell on two different generations of iPods? What else > could have caused it if not keeping them plugged up? The 6th generation was > fairly new. I wanted to get them both fixed, but just the one cost me $150 to > get repaired. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:06 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time > > My laptop is always plugged in since I rarely use it away from the house and > the same was true with my previousl laptop and even after over 5 years it > still holds a decent charge when I do unplug it. > As other said, modern batteries can handle this easily and the problem with > the battery that swelled surely was a different issue and would eventually > have happened regardless. After all look at the Note 7 disaster where devices > which weren't even plugged in at all burst into flames. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Mike Arrigo > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:16 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Harming battery if left on a charger all the time > > It could harm older battery technologies such as NICD, but with lithium ion > batteries, when the battery is charged, the charging circuit turns off, there > is no such thing as a trickle charge for these kinds of batteries, so leaving > it connected to a charger should be fine. > Original message: >> Hello everyone > > > >> Does it do more harm than good if I leave my iPhone 8 on a charger >> all the time? > >> I have read somewhere that phones and tablets only have so many: >> charge cycles before they can't hold a charge anymore. > >> I have been told by apple that they recommend not: fully discharge >> the device but top it up regularly. However, I wasn't sure about >> leaving it on the charger for all of the time. Obviously though, I >> would take it off if I had to go out somewhere. > >> Thanks in advance for anyone who can clear up if leaving on charge is >> either good: or bad for the overall health of an iPhone 8 battery. > >> Daniel > >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V >> iPhone list. > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. 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