Well, I wasn't so interested in Alexa because of the same reason you 
mentioned.  However, I am interested in the Home kit idea and being able to 
change things as far as codes when away from home.  Now all I have to do is 
figure out the model number and where that might be.  It really sucks when 
the security company does not give you the paperwork that comes with all the 
pieces they install.  They seem to think that they no what is best and I 
hate to say it, but they don't.  I also have to get the installer code so 
that I can change up a few things on the whole system so that I can run it 
and change things as I want and need to rather than waiting for someone to 
come out and do it.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

Ask for what you want. Believe that you deserve it, and then allow Life to 
give it to you.

— Louise Hay

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 10:56 AM
  Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?


  Find out the exact model and Google it, you’ll find all the features, 
specs and most likely a user manual in PDF.

  I don’t know why anybody in their right mind would want to Alexa enable a 
doorlock. Alexa has no security as far as I can tell and if somebody knows 
you have Alexa and a smart doorlock that works with it all they have to do 
is walk up to an open window and ask Alexa to unlock your door. If I want to 
unlock my Schlage Sense with SIRI it only works if I first unlock my phone 
with Touch Id or my passcode.



  Regards,

  Sieghard



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kay Malmquist
  Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 6:10 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?



  We have a Yale key pad lock on our door that was provided by our security 
company and I was wondering if anyone knows where we can get the users guide 
or find out more how to use it.  I don't want to have to asks the installer 
every time I want to set another code for someone.  I also want to know if 
they have an app so we don't have to wade through Alarm.com to try to find 
what might not be there.  I hear it is alexa enabled but don't know how to 
set that up either and neither does our installer.  I want to know if it is 
home kit capable as well.  any ideas?

  Kay Malmquist
  kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



  Ask for what you want. Believe that you deserve it, and then allow Life to 
give it to you.



  — Louise Hay

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Sieghard Weitzel

    To: viphone@googlegroups.com

    Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:18 PM

    Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?



    Not any more, quite a few electronic lock companies made fingerprint 
doorlocks years ago, I had one and so did a friend of mine, and they were 
the biggest pain in the neck.

    Depending on how much you want to spend, you are much better off with an 
electronic lock with a keypad or a smartlock which you can unlock with your 
phone.

    I have a Weiser electronic lock at my retail store which was actually 
installed by my alarm company and which has a keypad, but it also connects 
via the Zigbbee protocol to my alarm panel so I can unlock it via the alarm 
app remotely.

    At home we just recently purchased a Schlage Sense smartlock which has 
home kit support. This means you can unlock it by telling SIRI “Unlock my 
front door” or from the home app. It has also a keypad, but it’s a 
touchscreen so you’d have to put at least a dot on the 5 or maybe put a 
tactile dot on the 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9 to be able to use it manually.

    Before we bought it we had a Schlage electronic lock on the front door 
and I really like it, too. It has a lock button at the top and underneat two 
rows of buttons, 1 to 5 and 6 to 0. The lock button is above the 3, so in 
the middle above the two number rows. This particular lock (forgot the 
model) doesn’t actually have a motor so the single 9 Volt battery lasts 
forever because all it does is to engage a deadbolt which you turn by hand 
to lock and unlock the door. Less high tech, but also completely reliable 
and we now moved this lock to our patio door.

    If there are still fingerprint locks around I really advise you to stay 
away from them, if you don’t want to spend too much then you can get a lock 
like that electronic Schlage with the keypad I described for around $100 and 
it’s super-easy to use, you can program multiple codes and it’s easy  to 
program it without sight, all you need to know is the master/programming 
code which you can customize and then you of course need to write down the 
basic commands for adding or removing a code. It's usually something like 
enter the master code and press the lock button, then press 1 to add a code 
followed by the lock button, then enter a 4-digit code, press the lock 
button and re-enter it. This is just an example, but it’s that type of 
sequence.

    I am not sure if this particular Schlage can do one-time codes, but 
before we got the smartlock at my store we had a electronic keypad lock from 
Tamor. That one you could set a mastercode anywhere from 4 to 8 digits long 
and user codes then had to be the same length which means if you think a 
4-digit code might be too insecure this one is nice because you can do a 5 
or 7 digit code which is more unusual. Anyhow, that one also allowed for 
one-time codes so if, for example, you wanted to give a plumber or 
electrician or a friend access to your house without giving them a permanent 
code, you could set up a one-time code and once it got used once it would no 
longer work. Of course with a smartlock this functionality is even further 
expanded, you can give your dog walker who picks up your dog every weekday 
between 8 and 8:30 AM a code which only works during that time or you could 
simply ask them to call you when they are at the door and you can then 
unlock the door remotely.



    Best regards,

    Sieghard



    From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Cris Ali
    Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:50 PM
    To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?



    Hello Folks,

    Since I have the tendency to lock myself out from time to time, I 
thought I should explore the possibility of getting a door lock that works 
on fingerprint.  But It must have a Bluetooth connection to the phone so 
that I can do the settings, or change them when I want to, provided that the 
App is accessible with voiceover..

    Are you guys aware of any such product?



    Cheers,



    Cris





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