The extra two dots allow you to have a cursor so you actually know where you are editing. The cursor is dots 7 and 8. And, by the way, I grew up with six dots as well. Also if someone wanted to read in computer braille, you have to have the extra dots. But as someone pointed out, that is not the target audience for the BrailleMe device. I'm just glad there are finally braille displays that are affordable. The more the merrier. Richard
“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 On Feb 3, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Janet Bell <ja...@jan25.plus.com<mailto:ja...@jan25.plus.com>> wrote: Hi Richard I grew up with six-dot braille so prefer it I have never really understoodd why we need two more dots as we can use signs Janet -----Original Message----- From: Andy Baracco Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 7:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: best braille display foor ios and bluetooth If you go to https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.accessibleworld.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf0e50b9b4fd847999e0d08d56b8c4ddb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636533172710116240&sdata=nId2KTBLjwbvjdTUe5tJ62isKZBI9keVSMpyVVUdn1o%3D&reserved=0 you can download a recent podcast on this device. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Bell" <ja...@jan25.plus.com<mailto:ja...@jan25.plus.com>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 10:08 AM Subject: Re: best braille display foor ios and bluetooth what is the braille me p.lease. -----Original Message----- From: llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 4:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: best braille display foor ios and bluetooth We're waiting for the Braille Me. We heard the president of the company on techtalk last Monday and we were very impressed. I highly recommend giving it a listen and giving the product a look. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 9:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: best braille display foor ios and bluetooth What it comes down to is personal preference. I'm waiting to get my hands on the Orbit Reader 20 to see how it compares to other displays. I've used: HIMS Braille Edge 40, Baum's Vario Ultra 20 and 40, Humanware's Braillliant BI, Freedom Scientific's Focus 40 and 14; not to mention several of the full braille note takers. Of the above list, the HIMS BrailleEdge 40 was my favorite. But, when it died after 3 years and was going to cost close to $2,500 to repair when a new one was just a little more, I decided to wait to see the Orbit 20, which I have not seen yet. I liked the Braille Edge because it is quiet, solidly built, easy to switch from USB to Bluetooth, has basic note taking functionality using an SD card and comes with a 2 year warrantee. It is too bad there are not places where you can go and test all the displays to see which one fits your needs the best, because there is no one display that is right for everyone. HTH, Richard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 7:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: best braille display foor ios and bluetooth They now have a 14 Focus 5th gen as well if you want something smaller. Sarai D Bucciarelli https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.linkedin.com%2Fin%2FSaraiDBucciarelli&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9244e8af6dd243a3470808d56b1a8ee8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636532684164446445&sdata=ICvIVMCds%2BBh%2BDqqvdAGF%2B5bdq1hzvV3fgDUQHEfsgk%3D&reserved=0 -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anouk Radix Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: best braille display foor ios and bluetooth So the focus works well with ios 11? I thought it would be a fairly bulky device what are your experiences for using it on the go? Does it work well in combination with laptops or is it to deep so that you have to reach too far back? I hope the braille cells wont be broken too quickly… Greetings, Anouk, On 3 Feb 2018, at 11:39, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com<mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>> wrote: I 2nd everything said, plus the fact that it is very quiet, and easy to use. On Feb 3, 2018, at 4:13 AM, Eden <eden...@comcast.net<mailto:eden...@comcast.net>> wrote: I tried the Brailliant for all of one day in early December. Bluetooth sucked, and Usb was ok but not great. I sent it back. I now have the focus 40 5th gen and absolutely love it. Dot quality is crisper, made of more and steel no plastic, sd slot included for use as a future ability to read books and possibly write in stand-alone mode. It comes with a nice case, can connect to five bluetooth devices, and I would recommend it. Eden -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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