Hi Richard, You did already give good reviews, I would just add a few things:
Bispecular: it is a little bit like Be My Eyes, but instead of speaking to a real person via Facetime with Bispecular you take a picture of something and you then have the ability to attach a specific question to it. For example, maybe you have 3 different bottles of soft drinks in your fridge. You could put all three on the counter and ask which one is Coke. If it works as it should and you attach this question to the picture hopefully the answer which comes back would be something like “The one in the middle” or “The one of the right”. Of course you could use Tap Tap See to get the same information by taking a picture of each bottle, scanning barcodes for product identification can be useful and the best way to identify something, but with thing likes cans or bottles of pop, bags of chips or chocolate bars Tap Tap See does a very good job and without the need to find the actual barcode. I would agree that Seeing AI needs to be on every blind person’s phone, I used to have Light Detector and the Nand Money Reader and it replaced both of these apps for me and the short text channel of course is incredible for quickly going through mail or sorting a bunch of papers which might be lying around. My conclusion would be this with respect to what he should keep and then learn how to use: 1. Seeing AI 2. KNFB Reader 3. Tap Tap See 4. Be My Eyes All the rest, Digit Eyes, iDentifi, Goggles, Bispecular, iNote, Boop, Light Detector and Color Visor are in my opinion all apps which can go, maybe Color Visor can stay if he finds he is using it for certain things and it is working for him. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 6:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Confusion with text and imaging apps Bill, I will chime in with my two cents worth and list each of your apps and then my observation. KNFB Reader: keep it for sure as it works well with all iPhones and like you said, you spent the most for it. Be My Eyes: I’ve not used it, but based on their recent announcement that they are partnering with companies to give you direct access to experts from other companies, I am likely going to start using it. I use Windows computers, and Microsoft Accessibility is the first company to partner with them. Color Visor: Color Visor is fine. I like Examine Clothes Color a bit better, and it is free, though you mention later TapTapSee, it also does a good job with color and also patterns. Though no iPhone app is going to match a physical Color Identifier like the Rainbow II. is good, and I have used it. I wonder if it will survive when I finally do the iOS 11 upgrade. Goggles: Goggles is pretty useless. Seeing AI is free and does more than Goggles ever thought of doing. BeSpecular: I’ve not used. iNote: This one is going to work great on a newer device. They had an update in January of 2018 to work with iOS 11 and 64 bit phones. iDentifi: This one seems to have died on the vine. No updates. The high school kid that developed it must have gotten focused on other things. Tap Tap See: TapTapSee, is an excellent app for identifying many things. You simply need to practice taking pictures with it. I find being about 8 inches away from the object works quite well. It doesn’t save pictures to your camera roll, though it keeps a history of things you have identified, but doesn’t seem to take up much memory. Boop: Boop, Light Detector, and Seeing AI, and I think others; are good apps to have. If you don’t have Seeing AI, get it and check out the videos by the blind developer. I stick with Boop for quick light detection because it is free. You simply point the camera and it beeps based on the amount of light in the room. You can also move it around to find the brightest light source. Digit Eyes: The $9.99 version does a lot more, but seeing AI has a product channel now that is also quite good with bar codes. Digit-Eyes might be a bit faster in pulling up the information. Light Detector: as you say, do you need two of these. Probably not. Boop beeps, whereas Light Detector gives a solid tone. Keep the one you like best. Seeing AI app store link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/seeing-ai-talking-camera-for-the-blind/id999062298?mt=8 HTH, Richard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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