Hi All,

Just to wrap this around in a positive note, please do remember my name as I 
don't use this gmail account for any official marketing or other emails. I stay 
quite informal about things when in macvisionaries or viphone, meaning that I 
don't find it really necessarry to paste a full signature etc, but provide just 
the essential. 

I do agree that I could have added a few more paragraphs. Perhaps the engineer 
in me just keeps it basic, and the enthusiast in me thinks everyone will get 
the sincerity of my tone from the get go.

In any case, bygones are bygones and I'm happy to get the replies and the email 
contacts to start distributing the beta for improving the experience.

I will write a second email in regards to the improvements and some background 
on the app.





> On 12 Aug 2018, at 1:56 pm, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hello Yuma,
> 
> I apologize if you perceived my post as negative, but I am far from new on 
> this list having been a part of it for about 8 or 9 years. I am however not a 
> Mac user so wouldn't know you from the macvisionaries list. Yes, I could have 
> Googled Oseyeris, but in this case I didn't and I just pointed out what to me 
> were a few red flags, e.g. not a little bit more of an explanation or that 
> apart from in your email address no name was even mentioned.
> As Mark pointed out, spam isn't new on this list and while he does a great 
> job getting rid of anything which does make it through, it does happen.
> Also, if you were on some other lists like Jaws or Win10 which you are 
> probably not a member of for the same reasons why I'm not on any Mac lists, 
> you would know that I am typically known as a fairly experienced, objective 
> and moderate list member who often tries to be the voice of reason when posts 
> become heated and in the case of Viphone as somebody who has contributed his 
> share of posts trying to help.
> Having said all that, I hope we can just put this behind us as a 
> misunderstanding, again sorry if the way I phrased my message was rude or 
> dismissive. By the way, having now taken a look at what you do I find it 
> quite interesting and I wish you the best of luck with it.
> 
> Take care,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Yuma 
> Decaux
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 9:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: podcast appearance
> 
> Hi sieghard,
> 
> By definition a co founder is someone who founded a startup I'm the blind guy 
> in the duo, and I do all the different software architectures for the team. I 
> also do a podcast series on coding for 3D sound and audio using the swift 
> language and X-code. I'm based in Brisbane, and I think a few users on this 
> list know me, including Cara Quinn and mark.
> 
> I have been a member of macvisionaries since 2010 and this list has greatly 
> helped, especially in terms of mac stuff. 
> 
> If you don't want to click on the link, and first check out what I actually 
> do, including the research to make this app possible, it's your right, but 
> I'll ask you not to start treating or accusing me of some kind of scam or bad 
> intention from the get go, as this is purely an invitation to test out an app 
> that allows blind people like myself to enjoy the skies in a few different 
> and thoughtful ways.
> 
> If you're the new turf boss of this mailing list, good on you. I'm just a 
> veteran here.
> 
> A++
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12 Aug 2018, at 1:12 am, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> First of all, you say you are co-founder of " Oseyeris", what exactly is 
>> that, it isn't exactly a word that is descriptive in nature.
>> Also, you say you are passionate about astronomy and physics, but you don't 
>> even start out your message by introducing yourself, you don't end with a 
>> salutation including your name and you are soliciting support for your 
>> Podcast and app without apparently having asked Mark or Cara if it is OK to 
>> do so. 
>> Given how often one is "invited" to do something these days I am certainly 
>> not clicking on your link to fill out a contact form and I hope others are 
>> smart enough not to do so. If you had started with a proper introduction and 
>> a sentence saying that you received permission from the list owner or 
>> moderator to post this I might have felt differently.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Yuma 
>> Decaux
>> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 2:15 AM
>> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com; logic-accessibil...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: podcast appearance
>> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> Firstly, is anyone interested in a podcast interview about how they see the 
>> ssky as being, if they learn aspects of space, planets and other objects we 
>> can't see as blind people in the sky. I have a podcast series that covers 3D 
>> programming for audio, and related technologies.
>> 
>> I am co-founder of Oseyeris, and have been working on an app so I can 
>> understand where the planets are, how they cycle around me in the real 
>> world, as astronomy and physics are something I am passionate about.
>> 
>> Second, I would like to invite you to test a star gazing app for the blind.
>> 
>> Please follow this link, and put your name on the email list. if already 
>> subscribed, your test flight will be sent very shortly.
>> 
>> I am very interested in hearing your opinions about how stars should be 
>> represented, though I have laid out the initial audio "feel" of space.
>> 
>> https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day y'all
>> 
>> 
>> A++
>> 
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