Re: accessibility in itunes 12.9 for pc completely broken

Sun, 16 Sep 2018 10:26:48 -0700

You should be able to get to your backup by using the file menu. Right arrow on the devices menu and restore from backup is there along with other options. I had this same concern, so I connected my phone and checked it out. I'll do a fresh backup tomorrow once 12 goes live for the public and hopefully get my XS this weekend. I'm still trying to make a final decision as to if I want to do that. 

On 9/16/2018 11:44 AM, Sadam Ahmed wrote:


Hi Richard and all,



I also have just checked my desktop PC, and discovered that I'm now 
running the 12.9 update.




Last year Eric who works at VFO  as their VP of software management 
came to Australia to deliver a keynote address for the introduction of 
jfw 2018.




Quite a number of people including yours truly put the question of 
iTunes and JAWS accessibility degradation to him.




I do concur Richard that back in the day of iTunes 10/11 things 
weren't  so bad between jfw and iTunes.




Basically at the time he said that they were working with Apple to 
improve access.




Since his visit I was told that one of the key players at VFO who was 
  speaking with Apple regarding accessibility of iTunes and JAWS has 
left them to start a new role at Microsoft.



Frankly I don't think Apple cares much for the demise of Windows users.


After all if it drives more people to convert to the Mac  they won't 
be complaining.




I hope we can reach a time where iTunes is retired and everything can 
be done from an iOS device + iCloud.



I've sent them email after email asking for the issues to be 
addressed. Only to get their standard response.



I just hope I can get to my encrypted backup when setting up my new xs.


After that I'll just use iCloud and remove the program altogether.


Sadam Ahmed

On 9/17/2018 1:43 AM, Richard Turner wrote:



I just discovered that I am using itunes 12.9.  I guess I missed 
unchecking the check for updates automatically, so I ended up 
updating without realizing it.


However, I wouldn’t say accessibility is completely broken either.

I’m running the latest versions of Jaws and Windows 10 Home 64 bit.


I have never thought iTunes was particularly accessible in Windows 
after about iTunes 10 or maybe early itunes 11.



But, with much patience (or swearing) I can accomplish what I need 
to, like syncing music or adding Ringtones.


I also do passworded protected backups on the computer.


I do not use its file sharing as I have always found that to be too 
tedious for words.  If I want a file on my iPhone, I put it on 
dropbox and then add it to my phone.


I am using the iOS 12 beta on my iPhone.

Richard


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*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On 
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel

*Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 7:57 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: accessibility in itunes 12.9 for pc completely broken


I wouldn’t assume that it is because from what I heard it is largely 
inaccessible.



I would probably recommend not to upgrade at this point if this is so 
important to you.



I am on the iOS 12 public beta and not that log ago hooked up my 
phone to the laptop to transfer some ringtones to it. This is pretty 
much the only thing I ever use iTunes for at this point and if Apple 
made it possible one day to transfer ringtones to the phone via 
iCloud I would probably not even put iTunes on my computer any ore. 
Anyhow, what I wanted to say is that I was able to put the ringtones 
on my phone running iOS 12 just fine so I don’t think you need to 
upgrade to this version of iTunes if you upgrade to iOS 12. I haven’t 
really checked what this upgrade is supposed to do and of course it 
is always possible that the final release of iOS 12 will require this 
latest iTunes update, who knows.



One thing is for sure, if at all possible you want to upgrade to iOS 
12 since it works great and especially if you have an older device 
you’ll notice improvements.


Regards,

Sieghard


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Russ Kiehne

*Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 6:56 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: accessibility in itunes 12.9 for pc completely broken

Is file sharing still accessible in itunes 12.9?

*From:*Mary Otten

*Sent:*Saturday, September 15, 2018 8:49 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

*Subject:*Re: accessibility in itunes 12.9 for pc completely broken


There have been reports of this problem on various lists. Some people 
say that is perfectly accessible with Jaws, while others say that 
column browsing is broken, but list view is fine. There was a big 
problem with nVDA, but that has apparently been fixed with  the 
release candidate three for the next version. I guess the thing is to 
upgrade at your own risk. I don’t know what accounts for the wide 
variation in results.


Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 15, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


    I have not updated yet, so it sounds like I shouldn't. Have you
    written to Apple?

    Richard

    "The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing
    at the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the
    tempting moment." - Dorothy Nevill

    [Sent from my little hand-held computer]


    On Sep 15, 2018, at 8:40 PM, "llump...@austin.rr.com
    <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>" <llump...@austin.rr.com
    <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

        It looks to me like accessibility in itunes is completely
        broken in itunes 12.9. I can’t navigate genras, albums or
        anything else. Anyone have any thoughts?


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