32 bit apps will never be supported again. So, either the developer needs to 
update their apps, or you have to find a replacement or stay on 10.3.3.
Richard



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place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." - Dorothy 
Nevill



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On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Robin 
<robin-mel...@comcast.net<mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote:

ThankYou,Lisa for sharing YourExperience updating your iPhoneSE from iOS10.3.3 
to iOS12 ... But I,Robin am not so Fast to Jump  on Aboard & I don't See myself 
updating MySE iPhoneSE to iOS12 because I'm unsure if any of the usual or most 
often used iOS Apps on MySE are 32Bit or 64Bit & I recall iOS11 & Above don't 
support 32Bit MobileApps on iOS
I,Robin would really Appreciate It if you,Lisa B could share  YourExperiences 
with iOS12 with Me,Robin & The Rest of this Mailing List as I beleive there are 
more people on the Fence, who might be interested in your Findings as it 
relates to Apple's iOS12 & the  Transition from iOS10.3.3
At 04:37 PM 9/19/2018, you wrote:
Hi, all.


Well, I took the plunge and updated my SE from iOS 10X to 12.


Holy cow I'm just blown away.  I used to use iTunes or Over the air updates 
for my iPhone five and it took forever. . . an hour at least some times.  
Going that long without speech made me nervous, so I started using iTunes 
because it gave me a progress in percentages every few minutes.  It still took 
forever.


But today's update went off without a hitch and took about eight minutes.  The 
last time I heard VO announce the time it said 2:26 which was the same thing my 
PC clock said.  I had the phone sitting here next to me while I did Emails on 
the PC.  Every couple of minutes I'd use a light probe to see if the screen 
was still lit, which it was.  Suddenly I heard the little chirpy noise that 
indicates VO has done something. . . Opened or left a menu. The PC clock said 
2:34 and so did the phone.


I haven't had any problems getting everything reconfigured.  I haven't played 
around with some of the new changes, but so far I really like the female SIRI 
voice.  She sounds so natural.


So for anyone with an SE that's a few iOS versions behind, you should probably 
be Okay.


Lisa



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missktlab1...@frontier.com<mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>

On 9/18/2018 12:13 PM, Robin wrote:
Very Interested to Know YourResults pertaining to Updating your iPhoneSE with 
iOS10.3.3 to iOS12 because My  iPhoneSE is also on iOS10.3.3  &  My 
MobileCarrier is VZW

>From what I'm Hearin, Apple's iOS12 is Stable & Snappy, which hasn't been the 
>case  with the recent iOS updates  from iOS8 & Up

GoodLuck
At 09:57 AM 9/18/2018, you wrote:
Hi, all.


I am using windows 10 with the latest version of NVDA.  I currently have an 
iPhone SE that is still running iOS 10.3.  I haven't updated it because in 
the past year I've had to update to a new PC with Windows 10, and I used my 
phone as my primary technology for several months before that, so was afraid to 
do an over the air update to iOS 11.  Now, though, I want to move up to iOS 
12 if possible.


My concern has to do with whether or not to use iTunes or over the air to do 
the update from two iOS versions behind.  Yes, all should go well, but I 
don't want to wind up with a nice rose gold SE brick phone.  <grin>.


I used iTunes on my old XP system to update my iPhone 5, and when they updated 
to a new machine, they copied everything over to the new hard drive.  I have 
the old iTunes library, but not the iTunes program itself, at least I don't 
find it doing a search.


I have been following the discussion about iTunes accessibility, so I 
downloaded iTunes for Business in the hope it would be easier than previous 
versions of iTunes I've tried.


Now I'm unsure if I should just install the business version or if I need to do 
something with the residual iTunes that was copied from the older system.


I'm also unsure if I just connect the phone to the new PC and the newly 
installed iTunes will take it from there.  I don't remember how I dealt with 
this when I first got the iPhone and installed iTunes several years ago.


Generally I put up with the inaccessable aspects of using iTunes because I 
could get a running progress bar regarding update status, but now I'm thinking 
I might deal with an hour or so of uncertainty and do the over air update.  
We don't have an Apple store here, just a Verizon store where I had the phone 
set up originally, and I don't have a pair of working eyeballs around to handle 
reading a phone screen..


Any advice or ideas would be appreciated.


Lisa


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