um what what. the samsung note 9 has just as much storage as the xs and xs max does. With the option for adding an sd card. Not to mention the 512 gb version of the note 9 is a couple hundred dollars cheaper than the max. Also yes there have been other devices with a fair bit of storage maybe not that much before but at least 256 gb.
On 9/26/18, Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote: > The point is, some dude who spends his time in an office chasing for news on > RSS feeds, bloomberg, AFP, and his email Vs. The engineer who spends time > solving problems, I take the latter for quality any day. one's in a dog > pound, the other clearing the field. > > The first savours writing a piece for the sake of pushing his thoughts unto > others. The latter takes pleasure in unlocking one secret of the universe at > a time, through hands on experience, both good and bad. > > The first reminds me of Euripides and the latter Aeschylus. one uses > verbality to sway among the crown halls, the other his arms and thinking > process to get out of doo doo, and conquer at the best of odds. Augustus's > son, in the gladiator told his dad: > "You wrote me a letter once, about the virtues you love in a son: wisdom, > fortitude and temperement. From what I can see, I have none of those. But I > have virtues too: ambition, passion, love. > > Society needs both prototypes, but drawing a line between acctual useful > information and complete stuff fluffery keeps tinfoil conspiracies at bay. > > have a great day > > >> On 27 Sep 2018, at 1:46 pm, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> >> Exactly, you can get cheap Android phones but they are far from the >> quality of an iPhone and if you want a top of the line Google Pixel or >> Samsung then the price isn't all that different. Keep in mind that you >> typically have to compare a top of a line Android phone with the cheapest >> iPhone in terms of storage options since at least the last time I checked >> none of these phones came with 256 let alone half a Gigabyte of storage, >> instead they let you put in an SD card for storage of music, pictures and >> such which gives you some flexibility but it will also be less efficient >> in terms of speed and performance. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to >> bash these devices except for saying they are just no good compared to an >> iPhone.... OK, I am joking here. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Carolyn Arnold >> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 10:06 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business >> Insider >> >> Well, some Android phones cost around $1,000. They just have a greater >> variety, because of competition. Several brands are Android, which does >> keep the cost down. >> >> My cousin who has one scolded me for not having security code. Here's what >> I don't understand, would I have to enter the thing every time I unlocked >> my phone? If I did not, how would the phone know I unlocked or robber bad >> boy unlocked it? >> >> Best regards, >> >> Carolyn >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Cristobal Muñoz >> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 12:36 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business >> Insider >> >> Lest we forget, Apple has always positioned itself as a prestige brand. >> The SE and budget friendly iPads for schools are the exception. >> If you can't afford the BMW or ancillary cost of owning one, many folks >> would say . . . get the Toyota instead. >> I'd sure like for iPhones to be cheaper, but, it's not like they've got a >> monopoly on the market. >> I mean, there's always Android. That's the way it goes. >> >> Cristóbal >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 5:26 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business >> Insider >> >> And what do you all think how much places like Walmart make on a lot of >> the clothing they sell especially the stuff they manufacture themselves in >> places like Bangladesh where people who make the stuff get paid a couple >> of bucks a day for putting in 12 hours of work. I sell brand name outdoor >> clothing and equipment like North Face and Mountain Hardwear. A top of the >> line Gortex jacket from any of these companies can run $500 US, typically >> that is sold at a 50% margin which means a 100% mark-up or in good old >> plain terms the retailer doubles the price he pays to the company. So, >> said jacket which the customer pays $500 for has a cost for the retailer >> of $250. In fashion such margins are easily double or triple. >> What does the manufacturer, say North Face, pay for the actual material in >> the jacket? There is the face fabric which is what you feel when you touch >> the outside of the jacket, typically some form of nylon or polyester or a >> mix of those. Then there is the Gortex membrane which is laminated to the >> face fabric and which allows moisture in vapour form to pass through but >> moisture in the form of water droplets can't go in. Finally there is the >> lining and of course there are the zippers, maybe a bit of velcro at the >> cuffs, some draw strings etc. I honestly have no idea what such materials >> cost, but I doubt it is more than $50 and then of course there is the >> labour involved in cutting the material and sewing it or, as is often the >> case now, of glueing it together. But again such labour is performed at >> relatively low rates in countries like Vietnam or China, the people there >> get paid better than the people who make the Walmart T-Shirt or Hoody in >> Bangladesh and often companies like North Face, Patagonia etc. have at >> least a bit more of a social conscience as compared to Walmart, but >> nonetheless they make huge profits on these garments. As I said, in the >> fashion world it's even crazier, take a designer dress which as >> comparatively tiny amounts of material because it's meant to be worn by >> some cutie who wants to show off more than what is covered up and then it >> costs $800 or more, there is absolutely no connection between the price >> and the material and workmanship here and 90% of what you pay is because >> it says Dior on it or whatever other designer name that is currently hot. >> On top of that fashion items often have a lifespan of a year or two before >> they are replaced by newer styles and that's even worse in many cases as >> the amount of time people use their top of the line iPhone. It says "Apple >> like to make a healthy profit" or whatever the exact words were, I mean >> Dah, of course Apple want sto make as much profit as they can get away >> with, all businesses want to do that. I certainly don't give all my >> customers 20% off just because I think what the companies tell me I should >> sell something for is too much and as a retailer with wage costs, building >> costs, advertising and all the rest of it I barely break even at a 32% >> margin and of course there is plenty of product where unlike the 50% >> margin I make if I sell a piece of clothing at full price I only make 20 >> to 30% and by the end of the year if I make 37 or 38% I am quite happy >> because it means I did make a 5 or 6% profit. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 12:58 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business >> Insider >> >> A product at point of sale, is far beyond the sum of its constituent >> parts. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu> >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 5:19 AM >> Subject: iPhone XS Max Tear-Down and Parts Cost Estimate, Business >> Insider >> >> >> The $1249 iPhone XS Max is made out of only $443 worth of parts >> By Reuters >> . Apple's new iPhone XS Max has about $443 worth of parts, according >> to a new analysis. >> . The device that was torn down was the 256GB model, which retails for >> $1249. >> . Apple CEO Tim Cook has previously said he's never seen a teardown >> estimate that's "even close to accurate." >> . Still, it's clear Apple likes to make a healthy margin on its >> iPhones. >> Apple shaved some parts from the display in its largest new iPhone, >> helping >> keep costs under control in what has become the priciest component of its >> phones in recent years, according to a new cost analysis of the device. >> TechInsights, an Ottawa, Ontario-based firm which rips open phones to >> analyze their contents and estimate the cost of the parts inside, said on >> Tuesday that the iPhone Xs Max with 256 gigabytes of storage capacity >> contains about $443 in parts and assembly costs, compared with $395.44 >> for >> the 64-gigabyte version of last year's iPhone X. >> Apple released a trio of new phones earlier this month, including an >> update >> on last year's iPhone X, called the iPhone Xs, that starts at $999, and >> the >> budget-minded iPhone Xr that starts at $749. But it was the iPhone Xs Max >> - >> with a 6.5-inch display that uses so-called OLED technology for richer >> colors - that pushed new pricing boundaries, starting at $1,099. >> In its cost analysis released on Tuesday, TechInsights found that the >> single >> priciest part in the iPhone Xs Max - the display - cost $80.50, compared >> with $77.27 for last year's iPhone X, which featured a smaller 5.8-inch >> screen. The relatively small increase in cost despite the larger screen >> size >> was because Apple appeared to have removed some components related to its >> so-called 3D Touch system, which makes apps respond differently depending >> on >> how hard users press the screen. >> "All told, what they took out adds up to about $10, so this $80 estimate >> would have been about $90," Al Cowsky, who oversees cost analysis at >> TechInsights, told Reuters in an interview. "They had a trade-off in >> cost." >> An Apple spokeswoman did not respond to a request for comment about the >> study. >> But Bob O'Donnell of TECHnalysis Research said Apple likely made the >> right >> decision to focus on ensuring it could deliver a larger-screened model >> this >> year economically. >> "For a certain group of people, the whole thing is about the screen. It's >> driving the whole experience and it's what is making people excited about >> using the phone," O'Donnell said. >> Other costs that increased were the phone's processor and modem chips, >> primarily because the chips used newer chip-making techniques from Intel >> and >> Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co Ltd to boost their performance >> while >> taking up the same space. 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