I suppose that whether this device is too bulky to carry with your phone 
depends on your tolerance for such things. It is a 40 cell display. It does 
come with a very nice case, and you can use the device while the case is on. 
And the case is not Velcro, which means it doesn’t have that annoying Velcro 
sound when you open and close it in a meeting.
It is certainly not compact, because it is a 40 cell display. It also feels 
rather solid, perhaps heavy for its size. I like that. I don’t carry a purse. I 
carry a backpack. So I would not have a problem throwing that in my backpack. I 
haven’t seen the displays from freedom scientific. I have seen the braille 
edge. The braille and doesn’t feel as solid, and of course it is also 40 cells. 
If you don’t like the four factor of the edge, then I suppose this won’t work 
for either, although it is thinner and just feels all around more solid. I 
don’t know if that helped any.
Mary

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> On Oct 10, 2018, at 6:52 PM, Deb Cook Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It continues to frustrate me that products are released before they're
> developed. If I buy a display I'd like it to work with all reasonable
> operating systems and modalities. From the description, it sounds like
> this would be much too bulky to carry around with your phone though?
> Did you think it would be manageable?
> 
>> On 10/10/18, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I have had in my possession for the past few days, a Q braille display from
>> Hims. This is the one that has the braille key entry but also has the usual
>> complement of arrows and control et Cetera keys like a regular keyboard
>> would have. The idea is supposed to be that you can operate this device in
>> hybrid mode, making a connection for the display and another one for the
>> keyboard, so that you don’t have the learning curve that is associated with
>> using braille display and a phone or PC or Mac. Unfortunately, and this is
>> not stated anywhere in the manual, the VO keys have not been fully
>> implemented. So hybrid mode on the phone is a waste of time at this point.
>> I’m not sure about the Mac, since I did not try it there. It’s a very nice
>> device. But it’s not ready for prime time if you think you’re going to be
>> able to use it with a phone in hybrid mode. The big problem is that in order
>> to use  VO keys effectively, you either need to be in quick nav mode, or you
>> need to have a whole lot of fingers, since you need to do the vo keys plus
>> letters. So the absence of quick nav mode is a real problem. A few VO things
>> do work, such as vo plus a to read from cursor to bottom of document, or vo
>> plus Que to go into keyboard help.
>> 
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