Having the choice once Touch Id is available to work anywhere on the screen 
would be ideal. Simon, I'm sure Apple hasn't consulted blind horseback riders 
which I assume do not make up a large number of Apple's customers, but also 
remember that there are a lot of people who probably love Face Id because it 
works so much better for them than Touch Id. If I have a project going in my 
woodworking shop I can usually forget Touch Id for a week afterwards because I 
may have little scratches or cuts on my fingers along with maybe a bit of glue 
or wood finish which comes off gradually, but it's enough for Touch Id to not 
work. Think of all the thousands of sighted people who are manual workers, who 
need to wear gloves or simply all of us in the northern regions where you have 
to wear gloves because it's cold for a good part of the year. Here Face Id is 
much more convenient.

Regards,
Sieghard

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on horseback
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exactly! what a whole load of messing around, and when touch id was so much 
easier!

Simon


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Subject: Re: face id opinions wanted


All this just to get a phone to unlock, um not worth it. Spin your
head around hop up and down all that mumble jumble. When all I want to
do is just make my phone unlock. Yeah yall can keep face id.

On 12/17/18, Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I do not have any issue with it. In fact, it took me less than thirty
> seconds to set it up and it works perfectly. What I like to tell my 
> students
> is to think of your nose as the central point on a clock face. When you 
> set
> up FaceID, rotate your head around in a circle slowly, as if you were 
> going
> from six o’clock all the way back around the clock to six again. This
> usually works. Also, be sure to hold the phone vertically in front of you,
> six or so inches away from your face.
> Aleeha
>
>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton <j...@jedbarton.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> OK, i need some input here on face ID.  I'm gonna be brutally honest,
>> i personally hate it.  I'm pretty good with apple, and keeping up on
>> technology but this face id, it's just not working well for me or not
>> as well as expected.  I actually turned it off, that's how annoyed i
>> am with it, and i just do the home swipe.  It literally took me 17
>> minutes to setup an alternate appearance, and i finally threw in the
>> towel and gave up cause it just wasn't recognizing my face.  it would
>> tell me turn my head right, i'd move it an inch or 2, but i guess
>> that's too much.  Has anyone else had a similar experience?
>> I have 1 appearance setup on my phone.  What i find, out of 20 times
>> i'll unlock it, only about half of them work the 1st time.  Another
>> thing in find, often when i go to sleep at night, i'll pick up my
>> phone to do something.  It never has worked yet when i'm laying down.
>> In my eyes, this is not acceptable.  I like to be productive with my
>> phone, not sit there for 30 seconds to try and get the damn thing
>> open. The fingerprint was way more reliable.  Has anyone else
>> experienced this, am i alone?  Help me out here guys.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jed
>>
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