Ah, that would make sense, and if you buy a new iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch 
every year and are subscribed to Apple Music, News Plus and the new TV service 
maybe they’ll pay you interest instead of charging it?
Anyways, even at 13% it would be stupid to actually use the card for credit 
beyond the payment due date, people need to start realizing that they are 
digging the hole ever deeper if they don’t pay off their full balance by the 
time the payment is due every month. Credit cards are great, you can rack up 
rewards and delay paying for something for close to 6 weeks if you buy an item 
right after your billing date, but they should not be used to carry a balance, 
if you do then you spend more than you can afford and that’s always a bad idea.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 8:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Card tidbits: No support for shared accounts, security 
details, penalty interest rates, more - 9to5Mac

Maybe they’ll take a sneak peak at your Apple user profile and if you’ve got 
just one booty old sucker iPhone from X generations ago, you’ll get stuck with 
the higher interest rate where as if you’ve got multiple iOS devices of newer 
generations, they’ll *wink wink* take care of you with the better rate…
I’m of course being facetious…

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 7:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Card tidbits: No support for shared accounts, security 
details, penalty interest rates, more - 9to5Mac

Then what does it have to do with? There must be some criteria why you may get 
13% and somebody else gets 24% interest rate.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Victor 
Gouveia
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Card tidbits: No support for shared accounts, security 
details, penalty interest rates, more - 9to5Mac

Hi Joney,

This is not true, according to Apple’s terms for this new card, the 
introductory interest rate has nothing to do with your credit score.

This stated directly in their terms and conditions for the card.

Victor

From: Joney
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Card tidbits: No support for shared accounts, security 
details, penalty interest rates, more - 9to5Mac

Your credit score will determine where do you get 13 or 24% interest. The 
higher your credit score, the lower your interest rate.
Joney
talk2o...@gmail.com
"If God can bring you to it,
He will lead you through it."

On Mar 28, 2019, at 11:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
I wonder what determines whether your Apple card gets 13% interest or 24% and 
also what exactly they mean by “no penalty”.
If I don’t pay my statement balance in full by the due date I don’t get a 
penalty either, but I am being charged interest and as we all know, interest on 
credit cards are high whether they are 13%, 19% or 24%
Especially if you consider how low interest rates still are, I pay less than 3% 
on my mortgage and a line of credit here in Canada is typically anywhere 
between 6% and 8% depending on your situation and ability to back the line of 
credit with equity in your home.
What was written about being able to basically generate new card numbers is 
interesting and a constantly changing CVV would also make fraud difficult.

new card numbers being genew

depending on

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
KliphnShari Miller
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Card tidbits: No support for shared accounts, security details, 
penalty interest rates, more - 9to5Mac

Chance Miller <https://9to5mac.com/author/chmiller44/>
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One of the most interesting announcements from Apple’s event on Monday was the 
Apple 
Card<https://9to5mac.com/2019/03/25/apple-unveils-apple-card-in-partnership-with-goldman-sachs/>.
 While a number of details about the card were 
revealed<https://9to5mac.com/2019/03/25/apple-card-tidbits-wallet-integration-daily-cash-details-no-fees-more/>
 on Monday, TechCrunch<https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/28/how-apple-card-works/> 
is out today with a closer look at Apple Card and how it works.
TechCrunch’s Matthew Panzarino explains that the version of Apple Card shown on 
Monday is Apple’s “version 1.” This means that, much like other Apple products, 
the company will be “iterating on the contest with new features and benefits.”
One of the things about Apple Card that Apple touts is that it will offer 
“interest rates that are among the lowest in the industry.” The fine print here 
says that rates will vary between 13 percent and 24 percent, which is rather 
standard in the credit card industry. Panzarino notes of two things Apple will 
be doing to set itself apart here.
For one, there is no “penalty interest rate” on Apple Card. Apple touted on 
stage on Monday that there would be no fees for late payments, which led some 
to speculate that Apple would increase your interest rate if you were late. 
That isn’t the case.
Penalty rates are an increase of your interest rate if you fail to pay on time. 
That is not true. Apple Card has no late fees and no penalty rates. You will 
continue to pay your agreed upon interest rate on your outstanding balance, but 
that rate will not go up. It will impact your credit score, as Apple does do 
standard reporting.
Further, Apple will attempt to “place Apple Card users at the low end of their 
interest rate tier.” This means the company will try to “shift you to the 
bottom of a tier when you qualify” as opposed to having you pay the interest 
rate that correlates exactly to your credit score.
Other details of note include that Apple Card does not require a signature, as 
well as the fact that the physical card has a “fixed number on the mag stripe, 
but you don’t know what it is.” The only thing you see are the last four 
digits. There is also no support for multiple users or shared cards, while 
replacement cards are free. You’ll also have to have two-factor authentication 
setup.
In terms of security, Apple Card will allow you to generate a new credit card 
number at any time through the Wallet app. Furthermore, your CVV will refresh 
at every transaction.
You can hit a button to regenerate the PAN (primary account number), providing 
you with a new credit card number at any time. This is great for situations 
where you are forced to tell someone your credit card number but do not 
necessarily completely trust the recipient
Each purchase requires a confirmation code (CVV) that will refresh every 
transaction.
Last but not least, Panzarino offers some color on why Apple decided to base 
the Apple Card rewards system on cash back instead of points or miles. 
Essentially, Apple wanted “the simplest, most universal benefit structure,” 
which is cash.
Read TechCrunch’s full report on Apple Card 
here<https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/28/how-apple-card-works/>, which offers up 
more detail on Apple Pay Transit and more. Earlier this week, we showed you the 
unique setup process of Apple Card in the Wallet 
app<https://9to5mac.com/2019/03/27/apple-card-activation-ios/>.

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