I think that’s why there was such a big deal about getting the Marrakesh treaty 
signed in the United States because our copyright laws are so much more strict.

Just a thought.

Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bard books and Voice Dream Reader

Most of the RNIB books, are also commercial coppies. and the publisher’s don’t 
seem to have a problem.

This is also the same for many other countries.

We are given the trust, that we don’t give away our log in details. We have 
never had DRM protection on our books, and it always seems to have worked.

Dave.


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Subject: Re: Bard books and Voice Dream Reader


It would be nice if that's how it worked with BARD, but I'm thinking the 
publishers are worried that the books might then make it into the wild, 
especially since a lot of the books are converted into the NLS format from 
commercially available audio books.


On 5/4/19 4:00 PM, Dave wrote:
Hi Christopher. Yes that’s correct. We log in to the RNIB talking book library, 
using our user name and password, then we can download the daisy book, and move 
it to any device we wish.

Dave.


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Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2019 9:43 PM
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Dave<mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bard books and Voice Dream Reader


I'm confused as to what you're saying. If you can play your content on any 
devices, what is the personal log in information for? Is this what you use to 
download the books in the first place, but once you've downloaded the books you 
can copy them to any device and play them with any software that supports the 
format without having to use your personal log in information again?


On 5/4/19 3:27 PM, Dave wrote:
We in the UK, who use the RNIB library, can play our books, on any device, as 
they are not DRM protected. But we still need our own personal log in details.

I know, australia have the same system as us, here in the UK.

I think this is much better, as we can use voicedream reader, and our 
respective libraries, are also in the dolphin easy reader app.

noone else can use our libraries, unless they have our log in details.

Dave.


From: Susie Stageberg<mailto:sstagebe...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2019 5:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Bard books and Voice Dream Reader

I’m sure it’s a copyright issue. In order to download the BARD app, you have to 
be a registered patron of thee NLS library system, which  means you qualify for 
books in a specialized format. Otherwise, potentially, anybody with an iPhone 
and Voice Dream Reader could get all these free audiobooks.

Susie


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That is correct.  Voice Dream Reader cannot read protected content.  Maybe one 
day.  Perhaps we should all write to NLS requesting they make Voice Dream 
Reader an authorized player, though the BARDMobile app is great and free.

Richard


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Subject: RE: Bard books and Voice Dream Reader

I don’t think you can read BARD books with voice dream reader. You have to use 
the BARD app.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 9:12 AM
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Subject: Bard books and Voice Dream Reader

When loading a downloaded bard book from ICloud Drive to Voice Dream Reader, do 
I need to unzip it first and load the folder or do I just load the zip file?

Thanks.

Vicki

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