Speaking of, is there a way of getting haptic feedback of time without audio or 
VO?  Say two thumps on the hour, and one thump for the half hour?  

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> On May 19, 2019, at 11:27 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> First, keep in mind that one can turn VoiceOver speech off, without disabling 
> the gestures, in both iOS and Mac OS; so this ability would, in no way, be 
> knew.  
> 
> Second, the primary reason that I would like the feature is for those who 
> have trouble using the current time hap tic feedback gesture.  If one could 
> simply turn speech off, then one could request the time without fear of audio 
> feedback.
> 
> There are times, when on a call, via the phone, when VoiceOver speech can get 
> in the way of the call audio, especially when using certain VoiceOver 
> gestures.
> 
> To be honest, there are a couple of other reasons why I would find such an 
> ability useful but, I can't think of them, at present.  However, I can say 
> that adding this feature to Watch OS would bring it in line with both Mac OS 
> and iOS.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 9:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Theme Question: How Do You Use Your Apple Watch?
> 
> Hi Mark,
> I don’t have an Apple Watch, but I am mystified as to the value of silent 
> mode. If you are a voiceover user, of what possible benefit is silent mode?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 19, 2019, at 8:58 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> Yes, I love silent notifications, on the watch.  It has truly been a game 
>> changer for me.  I just love the privacy of it.
>> 
>> I am so glad Apple put a silent mode on the watch.  Now if they would only 
>> allow one to turn VoiceOver speech off, without disabling VoiceOver 
>> gestures?  (smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Michael Maslo
>> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 11:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Theme Question: How Do You Use Your Apple Watch?
>> 
>> I use my watch for fitness goals, forecast and notification. 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Michael maslo
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2019, at 12:53, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> As I have recently approved several new people to the group, I 
>>> thought it might be helpful if they could discover how many of us use 
>>> our various apple devices.
>>> 
>>> So, my question:  Other than telling the time, what are the top three 
>>> ways you use your Apple watch?
>>> 
>>> As for me they are:
>>> 
>>> 1.
>>> Checking the hourly weather forecast.
>>> 
>>> 2.
>>> As a pedometer.
>>> 
>>> 3.
>>> Using the timer feature, with Siri.
>>> 
>>> Honorable Mention:
>>> Quickly scrolling through turn-by-turn directions when navigating a 
>>> route via Apple Maps.
>>> 
>>> I look forward to your replies,
>>> 
>>> Mark
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