Hi Reg, And again I didn't call, got busy cutting down my 3 trees in the backyard because the sour cherry tree for some reason mostly died last year after almost 20 years and this year it was worse. My Apple and ornamental apple trees both were infested by some sort of caterpillar for the last 4 or 5 years and while it looks like they may not be there this year unless it's too early, neither of them flowered so down they came. In a few days a guy with a stump grinder will come by to get rid of the stumps, then I'll fix the lawn and plant new trees. We also have friends staying with us for the last month, my friend is from Germany and he is also married to a Filipina. He is already retired and they are spending in total 5 month in Canada. On Tuesday morning they leave to drive around for a month mostly camping, then his wife's sister who lives in Switzerland comes with her 11-year old son and they drive around 3 more weeks this time in an RV. On August 3 they come back here and will be here for another month at least, then maybe in September they want to go somewhere else in BC until their return flight at the beginning of October. I'll call you, would tomorrow around Noon or so work? When I walk to the store I often have time to call and chat.
Take care, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 5:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Doorbell App Sieghard, we can always depend on your wealth of experience when posting to this informative list. It's great to build on your knowledge before going out to purchase a product that may or may not be suitable to our needs. For the record I didn't purchase either of the brands you have highlighted in your post below. Thank god for that! Cheers....Reg -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 10:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Doorbell App Which Ring doorbell do you have? Can you honestly say you can consistently accept a call when somebody rings the doorbell fast enough so you can speak to them before they leave thinking nobody is home? I have one of the original Ring doorbells at my house and I used to have a Ring Pro on the backdoor of my retail store. Picking up a call in time has always been an issue and in addition to that the Ring Pro at the back of my retail store constantly failed to remain connected to our WiFi. Initially the WiFi back there was a bit weak and the outside of the wall is metal which doesn't help. We initially tried the Ring Chim Pro which also acts as a WiFi repeater. We installed it on the inside of the door and above it so it was essentially 4 or 5 feet away from the doorbell and still it constantly dropped off the WiFi. I then purchased a Netgear Orbi Pro router which consists of the main router and a satellite unit. Before that I had a high-end Asus router, but it was in the middle of the 80 foot long building and on the second floor all the way on one outside wall (the building is 25 feet wide, 2,000 square feet per floor and two floors). Anyhow, we installed the main Orbi router in our backroom where the internet comes into the building It is now no more than 10 feet from the backdoor where the doorbell is located and still the Ring Pro had issues. Eventually I was tired of it and I bought a Nest Hello video doorbell. We installed it and not once since we got it probably 6 months ago has it disconnected from the internet. I also find I can more quickly answer a ring from the notification and it connects very quickly. There are aspects of the Ring doorbell I like, the fact you can get their chime and all the different rings and spoken notifications such as "There is motion at your back door" and so on. However, all the bells and whistles mean little if the core functionality is not so great. What I like about the Nest Hello is that after I linked it to my Google Assistant app it now tells me on all my Google Home speakers "Somebody is at your back door" when somebody rings the doorbell there. It makes a sound and then the announcement and this includes my Google Home Mini speakers at home. I am sort of hoping that Google/Nest may expand this so you could simply tell the Google Home speaker to "answer the doorbell" and you could then talk to the person this way, but to my knowledge that is not yet possible. Ring is owned by Amazon and I just had another look at their Alexa skill and while it seems to get better reviews now, you still can only ask Alexa to connect to your doorbell if you have one of the video Echos like the Echo Show, why on earth they don't allow all Alexa capable speakers to connect via audio only to the Ring doorbell I don't know. I should mention that we also briefly tried the Honeywell Skybell HD which my alarm company offers and while the WiFi connection also seemed to be better than that of the Ring Pro, I really didn't like the fact that even if you established a life connection to the doorbell you could only talk to somebody in Walkie Talkie mode, e.g. it wasn't an open full duplex connection, you had to push a button on the phone to talk, then let go to listen and so on. Both Ring and Nest allow you to open a live connection and while said connection is open you can simply talk and listen at the same time just like on a phone cal;l. For me currently the Nest Hello is I think the best option although Ring does make one doorbell which might work better, it's the Ring Elite if I remember the name correctly. The problem is that it is super expensive, but it connects to your router via an ethernet cable and actually you would need a router capable of POE (power over ethernet) or you would need a POE adapter since the doorbell also gets its power over that ethernet connection. I assume this would work very well, there really would be no reason for a connection to take time to be established since there is always a perfect, high bandwidth connection to the internet. But this is only speculation and at double the price of a Nest Hello or even Ring Pro this one is a difficult decision. Best regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Amy Johnson Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 9:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Doorbell App The ring doorbell works fairly well. A little slow to come up but voiceover does work with it. 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