I remember seeing somewhere that you can double press the lock button and it 
will hang up a phone call. I believe it works with VoiceOver. There is no 
reason why it shouldn’t work.

Ed W.


> On Jun 12, 2019, at 10:01 AM, regina alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> This is an interesting and timely problem. I have a friend who got her screen 
> curtain on but could not do the three finger triple tap to get it off. I know 
> this was anxiety and perhaps a little frustration mixed in because when she 
> put down the phone overnight just like that the next morning she tried on a 
> whim and it went off. However, during the time she was having trouble because 
> she had put on assisted touch I began trying to figure out how to make a new 
> gesture for her in assistive touch. When I called Apple Accessibility about 
> the problem,after I failed myself to help, they told me assistive touch is 
> not hooked (wrong word, but not sure what the word is, to VO. It didn't make 
> sense to me because people who are blind sometimes have difficulty with their 
> hands just like sighted people. They told me there was no way to help the 
> situation, but when I pointed out the problem she said she would absolutely 
> put the problem of assistive touch to the engineers. So, no way of knowing if 
> there may be a solution, but at least they are looking into it. The rotor and 
> the twist is another really hard gesture to do for people with bad hands, 
> shaking or wrist problems. I myself can do it, but I cannot turn back. I have 
> to go completely through my rotor settings after using one to find a previous 
> one. No understanding of why. My wrist just won't go left. Anyway, if they 
> work on this problem and hook the answer to VO I think it can only make the 
> iPhone experience even better for more people.
> On Jun 12, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Switch controls do not work with VoiceOver, so that option is out.
> If you cannot double tap with two fingers because of a tremor disorder, maybe 
> kissing the phone twice is a good way to go.
> Maybe, just maybe, with iOS 13 Apple will finally allow switch controls with 
> VoiceOver.
> I've complained about this from day one as some of our clients cannot use 
> iPhones because of tremors and switch controls are out because they also have 
> to have VoiceOver.
> The old between a rock and a hard place.
> Richard
> 
> 
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> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
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> any." -- Alice Walker
> 
> 
> On Jun 12, 2019, at 8:09 AM, Marie <magpie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> This might be a case where the user would benefit more from the Choice 
>> commands rather than voiceover. I would look into that possibility for the 
>> future. For now, I can’t see a solution.
>>  
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 5:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Ending a call with Siri?
>>  
>> Pushing the sleep power button does not hang up the phone. I just confirmed 
>> that by calling my office and when the answering machine answered, pressing 
>> the power button did nothing.
>> It would appear that either touching the end call button with one finger and 
>> double tapping, or using the two finger double tap are the only ways to hang 
>> up the call if VoiceOver is on.
>>  
>> I am fairly sure Siri cannot help here.
>> This would be a good thing to point out to Apple, both through Apple 
>> Accessibility and through the feedback form on their web site.
>> Given their plans to make iOS 13 more useable for people with physical 
>> disabilities maybe they could do something about this.
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
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>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>  
>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>>  
>> 
>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 5:41 AM, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Could be wrong, but doesn't hitting the sleep / power button hang up a call?
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 12, 2019, at 8:20 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m helping a lady with very little sight and Parkinson’s: she struggles 
>>>> to tap or swipe, so I set up her iphone 7 with VoiceOver on, no passcode, 
>>>> raise to wake on and iPhone set to automatically answer calls after 5 
>>>> seconds and she can use Hey Siri to make calls. What she’s just found is 
>>>> that, if the number she calls goes onto voicemail, she has no way to end 
>>>> the call! She can manage to single click or hold down the Home button, but 
>>>> the two-fingerdouble-tap is too hard. I hadn’t realised that it is 
>>>> impossible to summon Siri during a phone call. Does anyone know how she 
>>>> might end a phone call?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Harry
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