Ed, The first table on the page I hand-coded using basic html. The second table is an oracleJet table component, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is acting a little different.
If you want to create a table that I can test with VoiceOver that would be great. Thanks On 7/11/19, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Donald, > > This table is not using basic html correctly. I can create a table for you > and see if VoiceOver is still acting weird with it. Even on my computer it’s > acting a little strange. I think they used very basic html and didn’t use > the proper row or table header tags. This site is done by Oracle, the second > table is done with Java Script and it’s meant to look more accessible as JS > was developed by Oracle. > > Ed W. > >> On Jul 10, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> I do not think VoiceOver will speak the column and row headings like >> Jaws. >> That has never worked for me, other than creating lots of extra verbiage >> that ends up being the row and column numbers, but never the headings. >> Maybe in iOS 13 we could see this, but I'm not holding my breath. >> >> >> Richard >> >> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology >> is indistinguishable from magic." >> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) >> www.turner42.com >> >> >>> On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Donald Raikes <don.rai...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Ed, >>> >>> Thanks for the suggestions, but yes the verbosity was set to announce >>> the row and column headings. >>> >>>> On 7/10/19, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Have you gone into the settings app, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, >>>> verbosity and checked to make sure all of the verbosity levels are set >>>> to on >>>> for tables? >>>> >>>> This is where I would start. If I’m not mistaken there should also be a >>>> rotor option for tables. I don’t utilize this feature but it might only >>>> be >>>> to find tables on the page. I honestly don’t remember. >>>> >>>> Ed W. >>>> >>>>> On Jul 10, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Donald Raikes <don.rai...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello all you VoiceOver experts: >>>>> >>>>> I am trying to understand how VoiceOver should behave when working >>>>> with html tables. >>>>> >>>>> I know that with JAWS, when I use the table navigation keystrokes that >>>>> JAWS will read the row/column headers plus the coordinate and data >>>>> cell contents. >>>>> >>>>> When I use VoiceOver, all I am getting is the cell coordinates and >>>>> cell contents not the row and column headers. >>>>> >>>>> What I do: >>>>> using the rotor, I jump to the table, then set the rotor to vertical >>>>> navigation. If I flick right or left I get the cell coordinate and its >>>>> contents but no header information. Same thing happens if I flick >>>>> up/down. >>>>> >>>>> Is there something I am doing wrong, or is this a limitation of >>>>> VoiceOver? >>>>> >>>>> Test URL: >>>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdonraikes.github.io%2FAccJet%2F%3Froot%3Dmodule3%26mod3%3Dtable&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca94b3339d41c49346f0a08d70585bc98%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636983944258246055&sdata=r7Uweprw7bTTo91BlHD4cPIiKiBgCYC2WOCzeTq8DRY%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance for any help. >>>>> >>>>> Donald Raikes >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>> or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>> mk...@ucla.edu. 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