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Glad you sorted it out. Richard Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) www.turner42.com > On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:48 AM, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Apologies if you have seen this message before. A glitch made me > think my previous send did not go to the list. > > I have done some more tesssting. First, I have to amend a statement I > made in the first message of this thread. I said the first time I > tried to change the cursor position, I altered it and closed the app > via the app switcher, and the new position was saved. I don’t think, > in fact, that I closed the switcher. > > Here’s what I now believe to be true in all cases. If I open a > document and do nothing but change the cursor position and then close > the app via the switcher, the new position is not saved. On the other > hand, if I open the app and document, change the position, move away > from the app by merely pressing “home” and then later re-open Writer, > I can change the cursor position and close the app via the switcher, > and the new position is saved. All of this is done without making any > changes to the text. This makes no sense to me. > > I am now thinking that my question is largely academic and prompted by > little more than curiosity. In the normal course of editing, worrying > about moving the cursor without making any textual changes to a > document might not have any practical advantage. In other words, > maybe I am just pursuing a question whose anser does not really make > much of a difference in how the application performs overall. Perhaps > I should connect a Bluetooth keyboard and then earnestly start using > Writer as an editor without worrying about an academic quibble.. > > Craig > > >> On 7/21/19, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Thank you, Keith, for suggesting this tweak in my testing. You raise an >> intriguing question: If no textual change is made, is a save necessary? >> Duly noted. >> >> Craig >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 2:29 PM 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone < >> viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> hi, I understand writer only forces a change after an edit. Perhaps it >>> does not consider a change of cursor location and edit. Try doing >>> something >>> that changes the number of characters or something else, change your >>> cursor >>> location and then see if that new change is saved. >>> I am also trying to get writer to work for me. Please let us know if this >>> makes a difference for you. >>> Thanks, Keith >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2019, at 12:54 PM, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you, Richard, for your thoughts. When I played with Writer shortly >>> after it came out, I never tested the cursor position accuracy. I'm >>> going >>> to do some more testing to make sure my findings are reproduceable before >>> I >>> contact Winston. I wouldn't want a developer following a false scent. >>> I'll be back in a couple of days. >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 8:15 AM Richard Turner < >>> richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Well, since I have iCloud enabled, and I always leave my cursor at the >>>> end of what I am working on, I'm not sure what's happening. >>>> Given your explanation, it sounds like an issue; but perhaps writing >>>> Winston directly would be helpful? supp...@voicedream.com >>>> >>>> I'd be curious to know what you find out. >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology >>>> is indistinguishable from magic." >>>> (Sent from the magical iPhone SE) >>>> https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf59d840574e34124fa3908d70e9a7394%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636993928832159360&sdata=qoUrJot85xSWmeAs2dJrKnWENz81zhyXxLDnp3mMQss%3D&reserved=0 >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jul 21, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, everyone. >>>>> >>>>> I hadn't used Voice Dream Writer for a long time so decided to give it >>>>> another try. With no Bluetooth keyboard connected and iCloud not >>>>> enabled, I created a one-sentence test document on my iPhone SE >>>>> running iOS 12.3.1. After playing around with various controls, I >>>>> moved the cursor to a word in the middle of the sentence and confirmed >>>>> the cursor's position by a double tap of the button Labeled "Cursor." >>>>> The position was correct. I then closed the application via the app >>>>> switcher, reopened it, and confirmed the correctness of the saved >>>>> position. I moved the cursor to another position and closed an >>>>> re-opened the application, but this time, the new position was not >>>>> saved. No matter what I did, I couldn't change the cursor saved >>>>> position to anything other than the first place I had saved. Any idea >>>>> as to what is going on? Computer operator error is always a distinct >>>>> possibility. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Craig >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>> mk...@ucla.edu. 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