Face id isn't going anywhere, I don't get it what's wrong with having both if possible.
On 9/10/19, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > These are just guesses and conjecture at this point and in my opinion there > is little point in engaging in them until we actually find out more > regarding this in-screen or under-screen Touch Id feature and if and when it > might be coming. Sure, Apple has introduced and abandoned features before, > 3D touch seems to be one of them, but I somehow doubt that Face Id is going > away considering that it is being used more and more everywhere and also > because Apple still seems to care about accessibility and there are > certainly people who can't use Touch Id because maybe they don't have hands > or arms etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ed > Worrell > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 8:01 AM > To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead, 9 > to 5 Mac > > Hey Mark, > > I agree with the author of the article. I hope they don’t ax the FaceID > functions. I have found FaceID to be much more reliable then TouchID ever > was. Granted there are some minor trade offs with FaceID vs TouchID. At the > payment terminal TouchID can be a little quicker as you and I have discussed > off list. In everyday use I find the FaceID function to be much quicker and > much more friendly to use. There were many times with TouchID it simply > would not recognize my finger print and it would kick me to the keypad > anyway. This then defeated the purpose of TouchID to me… Maybe I’m the odd > man out here but I love FaceID and it’s simplicity. > > Just my thoughts on the FaceID vs TouchID argument. > > Ed W. > > > >> On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:51 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello All, >> >> As I am one of those insane people who is waiting for Apple to >> re-introduce Touch-ID back into the iPhone, before purchasing a new >> model, I found the following article interesting. >> >> Mark. >> >> In-screen Touch ID potentially signals a backward step ahead By Ben >> Lovejoy >> >> In-screen Touch ID could be appearing in iPhones as early as next >> year, according to a new report today. But while the current report >> suggests that both Touch ID and Face ID fans will be catered for, that >> may not remain the case for long. >> >> The debate between the respective fans of Touch ID and Face ID began >> when Apple launched the iPhone X, the first iPhone to be launched >> without the fingerprint reader since it made its debut on the iPhone 5 S >> in 2013. >> >> With the iPhone X launch, Apple seemed pretty clear that Face ID was >> the future of iPhone authentication. It is, says Apple, faster, >> easier, and more secure than Touch ID. >> Face ID reinvented the way we unlock, log in, and pay. Some of our >> most sophisticated technologies - the TrueDepth camera system, the >> Secure Enclave and the Neural Engine - make it the most secure facial >> authentication ever in a smart-phone. And even faster and easier to use. >> >> Close family members aside, Apple says that Face ID is 20 times more >> secure than Touch ID. >> Every fingerprint is unique, so it's rare that even a small section of >> two separate fingerprints are alike enough to register as a match for >> Touch ID. >> The probability of this happening is 1 in 50,000 with a single, >> enrolled finger. >> >> The probability that a random person in the population could look at >> your iPhone or iPad Pro and unlock it using Face ID is approximately 1 >> in 1 million with a single enrolled appearance. >> >> Most owners of iPhone X/XS and latest iPad Pro devices say they would >> never go back. That's certainly true for me. >> >> But while that appears to be the consensus view, it's not a universal >> one. >> There are owners of Face ID devices who say they find it less reliable >> than Touch ID, and there are owners of Touch ID devices who claim they >> won't upgrade until Touch ID is available on newer devices. >> >> Today's report says that Apple is aiming to please all of the people >> all of the time, with plans to offer both forms of biometric >> authentication in future iPhones, starting in either 2020 or 2021. >> In-screen Touch ID would enable Apple to bring back Touch ID without the >> need for a Home button. >> >> Apple is apparently readying a new under-display integrated Touch ID >> fingerprint sensor "as early as its 2020 iPhones" next fall, according >> to a report today from Bloomberg. The report says it would be an >> addition to the existing Face ID authentication and unlock system, >> allowing users to authenticate with either fingerprint or face >> biometrics [.] >> >> Offering both Touch ID and Face ID would increase overall convenience >> and speed of unlocking the iPhone. A user would register their >> fingerprints and facial signature, and the phone can unlock as soon as >> either recognition succeeds. This means Touch ID can make up for Face >> ID's weaknesses, and vice versa. >> >> The problem may come in the future, however. Once In-screen Touch ID >> proves reliable, the temptation for Apple to lose the notch by >> dropping Face ID may prove irresistible. >> >> Losing the notch, to effectively give an all-screen design, would >> create a similar wow factor to that of the iPhone X when it launched. >> Jony Ive may have bowed out, but his "single slab of glass" vision for >> the iPhone likely lives on within the design team. >> Apple already has form for prioritizing form over function in this >> way. The company has long aimed to make iPhones as slim as possible, >> even though many of us would prefer a slightly thicker phone with >> better battery life and no camera bump. >> >> Could Apple do both, and embed Face ID tech beneath the display too? >> Long-term, anything is possible. One Android manufacturer has already >> demonstrated an under-screen camera. But that's just a proof of >> concept at this stage, and Apple would also need to embed the IR >> emitter and dot projector too before we could have under-display Face >> ID. That's not something that's going to happen anytime soon. >> >> There is, then, a risk that Apple will at some point prioritize design >> over performance by dropping Face ID in favor of the clean look of an >> iPhone that offers only embedded Touch ID. That, to me, would be a huge >> shame. >> >> I love Face ID. The beauty of it is that you get strong authentication >> that is almost invisible. I pick up my phone, and it's unlocked. I >> open my banking app, and a second or so later, I'm looking at my bank >> balance. They say the best user interfaces are invisible, and that to >> me is very nearly true of Face ID. Having to touch a finger to a >> device now feels clunky in comparison. >> >> If Apple supplements Face ID with embedded Touch ID, I'm all in favor. >> But if it later drops Face ID to get a sleeker design - as I fear it >> might - that would to me be a backward step. I hope I'm wrong. >> >> What's your view? Would you be willing to sacrifice Face ID to lose >> the notch? Please take our poll and let us know your thoughts in the >> comments. >> >> Original Article at: >> https://9to5mac.com/2019/09/05/in-screen-touch-id/ >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> [email protected]. 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