I have the 4 so waiting for the 6, and if you want the watch and don't
want to pay the price of the 5 you can always get a 4 from a third
party. If you really want to save even more buy the 3 and it works
just fine.

On 9/11/19, Alex Stone <alexston...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> im not sure I’ve heard all the details, but the Apple Watch 5 didn’t sound
> that exciting to me. I already have the 4.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 11 Sep 2019, at 21:23, Maria Reyes <maria2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am interested in the 11 pro. What do you guys think about the new Apple
>> Watch Series 5?
>>
>> want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I
>> will happily add you.
>> maria2...@gmail.com
>>
>>> On Sep 11, 2019, at 3:39 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You slide up from the bottom of the screen until you feel one vibration,
>>> then slide back down.
>>>
>>>>> On Sep 11, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Matthew Bullis <matthewbulli...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How do you perform the reachability gesture without a home button?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Matthew
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/11/19, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> YourWife's iPhone6S  is a  Little
>>>>> SmallerThan  your iPhoneXR & the iPhoneXR is the
>>>>> SameSize as the UpComin iPhone11
>>>>>
>>>>> YourWife should GET  the iPhone11Pro if She
>>>>> desires a   iPhone, which is relatively the SameSize as Her iPhone6S
>>>>> At 12:02 PM 9/11/2019, you wrote:
>>>>>> One thing to remember too is that iPhones have
>>>>>> that reachability gesture as well as the ability
>>>>>> to shift the keyboard to a left-handed or
>>>>>> right-handed configuration. I find myself using
>>>>>> these more than I thought I would at first.
>>>>>> I'm a fairly big guy with hands proportion to my
>>>>>> size, but still, I too don't particularly care
>>>>>> for the larger size phones, but these
>>>>>> workarounds Apple's built into the phones do
>>>>>> help a little. Instead of being terrible, it only mildly sucks.
>>>>>> I'd be one happy dude if my XR could fit into a
>>>>>> 6S or SE, but that ship has sailed and there's
>>>>>> no reason opining on what clearly isn't going to
>>>>>> happen or waiting around for the same.
>>>>>> Apple would probably just say buy the 8 or use the features mentioned
>>>>>> above.
>>>>>> My wife's got a 6S and we're probably going to
>>>>>> upgrade her to the 11 this year. She's sighted
>>>>>> and wants the larger screen size. Big sucker
>>>>>> phone  be damned. She says she'll figure it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> Marie
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:38 AM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: apple keynote
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also have small hands but changing from the
>>>>>> eight to the X, there was barely any noticeable
>>>>>> difference. I have no problem with the size.
>>>>>> Marie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: lenron brown
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 9:27 AM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: apple keynote
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes the 11 pro is pretty much the same size as the x. My hands are
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> huge and the 7plus fits just fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/11/19, Marie <magpie...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Richard,
>>>>>>> I did not see the dimensions for the 11 Pro on the Apple site. Are
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> saying it is the same as the X? I hope that is the case because it
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am used to and I am planning on trading the X in on a new 11 Pro.
>>>>>>> Marie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Davy Cuppens
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:04 AM
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: apple keynote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is the third consecutive year of these rumors.
>>>>>>> Davy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Richard Turner
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 6:11 AM
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: apple keynote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No iPhones as small as the iPhone 8 or 8 plus.
>>>>>>> iPhone 8 was 4.7 inches diagonal, the 8 plus, 5.5 inches.
>>>>>>> the iPhone xr 6.1 and the new iPhone 11 is also 6.1.
>>>>>>> The iPhone 11 Pro is 5.8 or the pro Max is 6.5
>>>>>>> It has been rumored that next year they may come out with an SE
>>>>>>> sized
>>>>>>> phone;
>>>>>>> but nothing official from Apple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2019, at 9:01 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to know that as well. I have an iPhone 8, and would
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> stay with that form factor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <kheve...@earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 8:35 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: apple keynote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did they come out with a new iphone the size of the apple SE?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Kelly Pierce
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 10:51 PM
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: apple keynote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this year the innovation for blind end users was in iOS.  the big
>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>> in the phones themselves was in the camera and an enhanced Face ID.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kelly <div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /> <table
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/10/19, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Yes, it happened earlier today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Anna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    On Sep 10, 2019, at 6:28 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    <pau...@roadrunner.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Just curious.  Did Apple have their usual sept. 10 announcements
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    unvailings?  There’s been no chatter about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    God bless!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Paula and Garçon
>>>>>>>
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