That scroll bar is a little annoying. I know how it could be useful but still I don't need it all the time.
On 10/18/19, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Ed, > I do not have issues with the vertical scroll bar preventing me from > locating the compose button on Twitterrific. If the vertical scroll bar is > covering elements on apps that you are using, the app developers need to > tweek their app with the iOS 13/ vertical scroll bar in mind. > > Feliciano > > For Tech tips and updates from a Blindness Perspective, > Follow www.twitter.com/TheBlindMan12v > Like www.facebook.com/TheBlindMan12v > Follow www.instagram.com/theblindman12v > those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones > who do. -Steve Jobs > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Ed > Worrell > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 8:16 AM > To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar. > > Sieghard, > > Yep, I have done so. I also have told the Deve team that it overlaps with > controls in many apps and I gave them a list of apps. > > Thanks for the suggestion though. > > Ed > >> On Oct 18, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> >> Hi Ed, >> >> Maybe that is so, I am not a developer so I have no idea if it would be >> that easy, but as I said, you should suggest it to Apple Accessibility >> because if you don't they will never know some people don't like it. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Ed Worrell >> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 7:53 AM >> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar. >> >> Hey Sieghard, >> >> The three finger drag is basically and option now. You have the ability to >> change it in the custom commands section of VO settings. The development >> team could simply add a toggle switch to the verbosity section of VO to >> announce or not announce the vertical scroll bar. >> >> Problem solved. >> >> Ed >> >> >>> On Oct 18, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ed, >>> >>> I sort of get what you are saying, but if Apple wanted to implement >>> everything a few people want as an option nobody could find anything in >>> Settings any more. >>> I could just as easily say the ability to swipe up and down with 3 >>> fingers should be an option. The vertical scrollbar is not that hard to >>> ignore if you don't want to use it and based on the responses to this >>> thread it seems a lot more people like it than not. You can of course >>> write to Apple Accessibility and request that this is made optional and >>> if enough others do as well you may get your wish. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of Ed Worrell >>> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 7:46 AM >>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar. >>> >>> Hello Sieghard and. All, >>> >>> I honestly feel that this should have been implemented as a toggle for VO >>> users. It is a nuisance and it is useless in my eyes. I should have the >>> ability to have VO ignore it. >>> >>> The three finger drag up or down does the same thing and you have more >>> control with the three finger drag than the vertical slider on the right >>> side of the screen. Before you jump down my throat I do understand it and >>> I can see how it could be useful to those with dexterity issues. But it >>> should be an option not a requirement to use it. Let the user control how >>> they want to scroll down the page. It adds a few commands/gestures to the >>> messages app and many other apps it simply gets in the way trying to find >>> things on the right side of the screen. Again give the user the option to >>> hide it or not. >>> >>> Ed W. >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>> I also think this is a well done feature and I think those who hate it >>>> maybe have not yet understood its use and learned how to take advantage >>>> of it. >>>> What Robert refers to as having always been part of the rotor is >>>> vertical navigation which is very different. >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Feliciano Godoy >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:13 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar. >>>> >>>> Robert, >>>> The vertical scrollbar that is being referred to is the one implemented >>>> on iOS 13. The vertical scrollbar is located on the right hand side edge >>>> of the screen. >>>> >>>> Feliciano >>>> For tech tips and updates: >>>> LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow >>>> www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Follow www.instagram/TheBlindMan12v >>>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are >>>> the ones who do. -Steve Jobs >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 3:04 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I am confused. The verticle scroll bar has always been a apart of the >>>> rotor if you happened to add it. Are you saying that in the beta that >>>> its been moved and made a main part of the screen? >>>> >>>> ******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the >>>> learning start?*** >>>> >>>> From: Anna Dresner >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 5:35 PM >>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List >>>> Subject: Re: Vertical Scroll Bar. >>>> >>>> Hi Carolyn, >>>> >>>> YOu can use it to navigate a page. Flick up or down to move through the >>>> page, or double-tap and hold, and then slide your finger. It also tells >>>> you where you are on the page. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Anna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Why in the world did they put that thing on the phone? Do any of >>>>> you Beta people have any idea? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>> itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >>>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu. 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