I too was frustrated by having to constantly return my rotor to Headings when 
on a webpage, so I took the opportunity to assign the two-finger swipe right 
and left to previous and next headings navigation.  That way each time I'm in a 
position to move by headings I don't have to worry about where the rotor is 
pointed, I simply flick right or left with two fingers.  

Thx, Albert

*** 

Albert A. Ruel, Parksville BC, Canada
albertr...@gmail.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Øyvind Lode
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 5:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any improvements for voice over in 13.2.3

No issues with iOS 13 for me either.
Ok, one minor annoyance is I have to use the rotor to move to headings every 
time in Safari to move by headings.
Prior to 13.2 VO remembered my setting and I could move by heading in safari 
without first have to use the rotor.
Currently I run 13.2.3 and I really like iOS 13.
I really like the preset/profile feature to have individual settings per app 
and they are automatically applied when that app is in the foreground.

Apple squashed quite a few bugs in 13.2 and as I said iOS 13 now works fine for 
me.

Thanks,

-Øyvind


On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 13:41, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
wrote:
>
> That is not normal behavior.
> Have you done a screen share with Apple Accessibility and demonstrated that?
> That has never happened with any iPhone I have ever handled, and that is 
> quite a few since I teach people how to use it and am often going through the 
> sound settings on their phones.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
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> On Nov 18, 2019, at 9:43 PM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> I mean the phone rings as soon as i go to settings/sound and haptic settings.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 10:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>
> What do you mean by "the phone rings even if I am not anywhere near the 
> sound volume settings"?
>
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> Cris Ali
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 6:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any improvements for voice over in 13.2.3
>
> One of the  Most annoying bugs for me is that the sound goes to the iPhone 
> speaker anytime I go to change any setting in sounds and haptics even though 
> i am using the earbuds, worse than that, the phone rings even if I am not 
> anywhere near the sound volume settings.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>
> I can't tell any difference in VoiceOver.
>
>
> Also, there still remains the problem that when using Bluetooth through 
> hearing aids, the sounds go through the iPhone speaker, but not with a 
> regular Bluetooth set.
>
>
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Cris Ali
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> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 8:42 PM
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> Subject: Any improvements for voice over in 13.2.3
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>
> Hi folks,
>
>
> Any improvements in voice over performance in iOS 13.2.3? The description 
> does not mention voice over at all. This has been apple’s policy since the 
> release of iOS 13, which is to ignore accessibility concerns. I noticed that 
> the email delete bug still persists.
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>
> Regards,
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>
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> Cris
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> B
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