Because that is what it said when I ordered mine from Amazon Canada and they 
didn't last more than 2 months and one thing you can be certain of is that 
Apple will not sell on Amazon.
I have a retail business and sell a brand of optics called Vortex. They make 
binoculars, spotting scopes, rifle scopes and so on and you can find their 
stuff on Amazon and all the while Vortex has no idea where it comes from since 
they say it most certainly does not come from them or any of their dealers who 
care because if Vortex found out that dealer would be not a dealer any more.
If you think Amazon itself really cares whether its sellers sell authentic or 
knock-off products you'd be surprised. You have to remember that anyone can 
sell on Amazon whether it's a responsible seller who cares about what they sell 
or a few Chinese or other Asian renegades who produce a copy of something, 
maybe even in the same factory where the authentic product is made. If you ever 
go to any of the large markets in Vietname, Cambodia or Hong Kong you'd be 
surprised how much "authentic" looking North Face clothing, Louis Vuitton, 
Chanel or other designer stuff is sold.

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how important is it to have a lightning port and wireless 
charging, have a question about an iPhone case

In the product description it states that the manufacturer is Apple. So why do 
you say they could be knock-offs?
Marie
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 10:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how important is it to have a lightning port and wireless 
charging, have a question about an iPhone case

Those are exactly what would have come with your iPhone as long as you in fact 
ordered the lightning version and not the 3.5mm version.
But, having said this, I ordered a pair of these as well because they are 
cheaper than from Apple, but while they were almost identical I can't swear 
that they were and I am thinking they might be a knock-off. The ones I ordered 
lasted all of 2 months whereas I usually get at least a year out of the 
original Apple ones and I use them all the time, roll them over my hand and 
stuff them in my pocket, I have gotten hooked on something with the cord and 
all that. Just saying.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how important is it to have a lightning port and wireless 
charging, have a question about an iPhone case

Here is one link to one set of ear buds.

https://www.amazon.com/Apple-EarPods-Lightning-Connector-White/dp/B01M0GB8CC/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=apple+wired+earbuds&qid=1581186986&sr=8-3

On 2/8/20, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> Are they over the head type headsets or earbuds?
> Can  you post a link?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: how important is it to have a lightning port and wireless 
> charging, have a question about an iPhone case
>
> Those headsets were about $20 a piece.
>
> On 2/8/20, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree.  I bought 2 apple cables with a lightning plug on one end, 
>> and a spot to plug in my wired headphones for about $8 per adapter.
>> I've got a couple different apple headsets coming that connect direct 
>> to my iPhone via the lightning port.
>>
>> On 2/8/20, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> Not sure what you mean, in my message I simply pointed out that some 
>>> of the really cheap stuff on Amazon is also very cheap quality and 
>>> may not work so great.
>>> If I saw a Lightning headset for $8 and it did not have Apple's MFI 
>>> certification I would probably question its usefulness including 
>>> sound and build quality.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>> Of Carolyn
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 7:01 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: how important is it to have a lightning port and 
>>> wireless charging, have a question about an iPhone case
>>>
>>> Super cheap? How much is the average cost, Sieghard, please?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 1:13 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: how important is it to have a lightning port and 
>>> wireless charging, have a question about an iPhone case
>>>
>>> I tried both of them, and they do work except there is a slight 
>>> hissing sound when using voice over.  Kind of like you'd hear on a 
>>> cassette tape.
>>> I
>>> tried one pair of wired headphones and they sounded really good.  I 
>>> could even stop, pause, play and change tracks by pushing a button 
>>> on my headphone cord.
>>>
>>> On 2/8/20, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>> I would be careful with some of the super-cheap stuff, you should 
>>>> make sure it says "MFI" which stands for "Made for iPhone" and it 
>>>> ensures that whatever it is has a certain standard and quality and 
>>>> will work.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 4:33 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: how important is it to have a lightning port and 
>>>> wireless charging, have a question about an iPhone case
>>>>
>>>> I got it from amazon.  You can buy them for about $8 a piece.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/7/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>> Where did you get the adapter for the wire headphones?
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 8:07 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: how important is it to have a lightning port and wireless 
>>>>> charging, have a question about an iPhone case
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi to all.  I used to use with my iPhone 8 a very sturdy case that 
>>>>> had a battery inside so with a press of a button located on the 
>>>>> back of the case I could recharge my iPhone if I needed to.  I 
>>>>> wanted to get another iPhone case because my current case even 
>>>>> though it had that battery in the case turned my lightning port 
>>>>> into a micro USB port, and I also couldn't use wireless charging 
>>>>> if I wanted.  I bought myself a couple $15 iPhone cases from amazon.
>>>>> The cases were exactly the same I found out, except one case has a 
>>>>> hard back that can be taken off if I want.  I like my new case 
>>>>> except it is so slim and extremely light.  The lightness of my new 
>>>>> case is what troubles me.
>>>>> I'm afraid if I drop my phone something will happen to it.  I am 
>>>>> considering going back to my previous case.  What do you all think?
>>>>> I'm getting from amazon a lot of accessories for my iPhone that 
>>>>> use the lightning connector on my iPhone.  I'm getting a couple 
>>>>> pairs of earbuds that are wired and connect directly to the 
>>>>> lightning port.
>>>>> I've also got a few 3 foot lightning USB cables.  I also did pick 
>>>>> up a couple of those things that allow me to use a wired pair of 
>>>>> headphones with my iPhone if I want.  I just plug one end into my 
>>>>> lightning port and the other end will allow me to plug my 
>>>>> headphones in.
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