Hi Sieghard,

        This is great info.  And, this reminds me of how much I’ve missed by 
being off this list for a extended time.

I’m interested in the full set up but plan to download the app to check it out 
first.  Also, waiting for a sale seems like a very good idea. 

        I appreciate the heads up on the mounting issues.  I can prepare in 
advance for locations and materials. 

        I look forward to any other user input, but this seems like a great 
addition to my home. 

        I do have a Nest thermostat and it gives me inside humidity on the app 
but not through Echo devices.  And outside info is from the web and not very 
consistent to my real situation.

Best,

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 22, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Just check it out at www.netatmo.com <http://www.netatmo.com/>, there would 
> also be a number of older posts about it in the archives.
> The app is accessible although you have to swipe for Voiceover to read the 
> information, touching and exploring the screen does not work very well.
> You can access all the basic info like indoor/outdoor temperature, humidity, 
> indoor CO2 levels and, for the main module, the noise level.
> Unfortunately at this point you can’t go back and see the information from 
> yesterday or other days in the past.
> The system consists of the initial package which is the main indoor module 
> and the outdoor module. The indoor module gets connected to power via Micro 
> USB and it’s about the size of one of the round Anker or other brand external 
> batteries, a cylinder made from aluminum maybe 2 inches thick and 4 or 5 
> inches long. Actually all modules have this form factor, could be that the 
> other modules are just a bit shorter.
> The outdoor and other indoor modules take 4 Triple A batteries and you can 
> simply use a coin to unscrew the plastic lid on one end to put them in.
> It’s been super long since I connected mine to WiFi and maybe the process has 
> changed, but basically you start out by downloading the app and you then do 
> whatever the wizard tells you to connect the indoor module to your WiFi. The 
> outdoor module which comes in the package is already paired to the indoor 
> module and you can easily have it 20 or 30 feet away unless maybe you live in 
> a house with concrete or stone walls, this may reduce the range a bit.
> You can add up to 3 more indoor modules as well as 1 rain gauge and 1 wind 
> gauge.
> The rain gauge is made from plastic, it has a funnel-like top and the water 
> it catches then falls through a small opening onto a tiny shovel which I 
> assume holds 1 Ml, when it’s full the weight of the water tips that shovel 
> down and spills the water out and another shovel on the other side is filled, 
> sort of like a tiny really well-balanced Seesaw.
> On the bottom is a standard threated tripod mount and I think it comes with a 
> mounting bracket.
> The wind gauge is also a thick plastic cylinder, maybe 4 inches thick with an 
> opening all the way around near the top, this is where the wind goes through 
> and it is measured. The app gives you wind speed, but I don’t think I saw 
> wind direction which I assume is there visually, but maybe Voiceover doesn’t 
> read it. I don’t have mine properly installed yet.
> Rain Gauge and Wind Gauge do need to be mounted correctly, the rain gauge 
> should best be about 3 feet above ground on a pole and of course you have to 
> make sure it is perfectly level since it would not measure totally correct if 
> it were tilted one way or another.
> The recommendation for the wind gauge is to have it mounted on the highest 
> part of your house’s roof and then on a pole which I believe should be 5 feet 
> tall. This means you probably have to get something made, I asked a guy to 
> weld together two steel plates in a V-shape so they fit perfectly across the 
> ridge of my house’s roof, then he will weld the 5-foot pole onto this and 
> I’ll mount the wind gauge on that. Of course you also have to use lots of 
> silicon or roof pitch to make sure you don’t get water coming through where 
> you screw this to the roof. The wind gauge has an arrow on it and it has to 
> be mounted so that the arrow points North, I still have to read or figure out 
> where this is supposed to be magnetic North or true North. This little detail 
> tells me that it does indicate wind direction as well as wind speed.
> The new stations now are I think also Home Kit compatible, mine is too old 
> for this since I purchased my main unit back in 2013. At that point the app 
> was barely useable, but when I contacted Netatmo I received a relatively 
> quick reply from their head developer, a Spaniard who was living in Paris, 
> France where the company is located. He was quite interested in accessibility 
> at the time and made beta versions available to me and I then provided 
> feedback as to which changes worked well and which didn’t. I’ve been meaning 
> to see if he is still there and ask if he couldn’t try to make historical 
> data available in some way and also ask him about the wind direction.
> All in all this is a good and accurate weather station, but it’s also not 
> cheap. I believe the initial main module with outdoor module is $159 US, then 
> each indoor module is I think $79 and the rain and wind gauges are a bit more 
> than that. I haven’t looked at their pricing in a while and they do sometimes 
> offer 15 or 20% off promos, I think last year they had a Father’s Day promo 
> and of course also a Black Friday one, you can also find it on Amazon I 
> think, but you can order directly from them as well and in this case that is 
> what I would do since it’s the same price.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Eric Caron
> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 11:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Hygrometer, Talking Unit Found, Info Inside
>  
> Hi Sieghard,
>  
>                I’m very interested in this Netatmo device.  Any tips for me 
> as I start shopping for it?  I would want the wind and rain gauge and 
> probably two or three additional sensors.
> Tips appreciated.
>  
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
> On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>  
> However, the flexibility and additional features you get from a connected 
> weather station like Netatmo which you would check via you r iPhone or Amazon 
> Echo are worth the extra cost to me. I have had my Netatmo for I think 7 
> years now and apart from changing batteries it’s performed reliably and I can 
> check the indoor and outdoor temperature at my house whether I’m at home or 
> travelling around the world (OK, not an option right now, I know).
> In addition to temperature I of course also get indoor and outdoor humidity, 
> CO2 level and noise level on the main indoor module.
> Since I have also purchased the rain and wind gauge I also get information 
> about that and the additional two indoor modules allow me to get temperature, 
> humidity and CO2 level in 4 rooms as the main module provides this 
> information as well as the 1 indoor module you get when you buy the station 
> (it’s in our bedroom) and then there are the two additional indoor modules 
> (one downstairs in my woodworking shop and one downstairs in our guest room).
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