Hello Richard,

Perhaps I am misunderstanding you but, based on the steps you listed, Mail is 
behaving as expected.

1.
In thread View, I reply to a message in an email thread.

2.
I delete the thread before my message, which I copied to myself, comes through 
on the server.

3.
My self-copied message gets downloaded into my mail client, after I have 
already deleted the entire original email thread to which the reply was sent.

4.
Now I open the message/new thread, which contains only 1 message, said message 
being my self-copied reply.

As I stated, this is the expected and correct behavior of the client.  

Now, were I to self-copy myself on a thread, and left the entire thread, intact 
in my client, then my reply would be included in the thread along with all of 
the other related emails.

A slightly different scenario can be expected when posting to this group, via 
Apple Mail, but, basically, it’s pretty much the same.  This is, in fact, how 
Apple Mail, for iOS in iOS 13.4 is behaving on my 8 Plus.

Again, not saying that you are wrong but, my reasoning suggests that the client 
is behaving as expected.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS13.4’Ms Mail app interface changed

One more thing, threading now does something very odd. 
I replied to Dacia's message, and then deleted the thread.
When my reply came through, it showed Dacia's name and that it was replied, but 
when I opened it, it was just my message replying to hers.
So the labeling of the message was all wrong.
Turning off threading again after sending this message.
I had pointed this issue out during the beta cycle.



Richard 
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On Mar 24, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
 Well, it isn't that different to me. 
They brought back a delete button at the bottom left, a Move button next to 
delete, then the More Actions button, and lastly the Compose button.
And, that the two-finger swipe up doesn't do anything when in an email.
While, anywhere else it reads from the top.
Prior to this, in an email, it would read the body of the email starting at the 
beginning.



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On Mar 24, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Dacia Cole <dacia.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
What is so different about the message interface with this update? I
haven't downloaded it yet but am curious.
Dacia


On 3/24/20, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

Yes, the two finger swipe up was noted during the beta cycle, but obviously
did not get fixed.
Everyone who misses that very basic feature should write
accessibil...@apple.com




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On Mar 24, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com> wrote:

So updated my SE to iOS13.4, and while I was looking forward to the new
Mail app interface while in a message, it feels so weird! Also when reading
the EMail, the two-finger swipe up doesn’t seem to work anymore. I’m having
to put my finger where the subject of the Mail is on the mid-top left part
of the screen, and swipe down with two fingers from there to read it.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

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