At this stage if you buy a new iPhone 8 it is extremely likely that it will 
have iOS 13 preinstalled. Back in November or December maybe you could have 
found phones which had been in stores for a while and which still had iOS 12, 
but any new iPhone 8 models which are manufactured now are preinstalled with 
Apple's latest version of iOS because Apple wants as many people as possible to 
be on the latest version of iOS. It may not have iOS 13.4 on it, but it will in 
all likelihood have a version of iOS 13.

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Should I buy an Iphone 8 now or wait for the potential of buying 
the new iPhone SE/9?

This isn't correct.  If you turn automatic updates off and at setup tell it to 
update manually you should be able to avoid it.

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Should I buy an Iphone 8 now or wait for the potential of buying 
the new iPhone SE/9?

If you get an iPhone 8. It will come with iOS 13.

Dave.


-----Original Message-----
From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Should I buy an Iphone 8 now or wait for the potential of buying 
the new iPhone SE/9?

I will try to wait for the new iPhone 9.  But, I would rather have IOS 12 if I 
go with the 8/.

James B

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Should I buy an Iphone 8 now or wait for the potential of buying 
the new iPhone SE/9?



Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:29 AM, Dave <dave.beckett...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> that is wrong. The iPhone 8 has iOS 13, and will more than likely get 
> iOS 14, when it is released.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Long
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 11:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Should I buy an Iphone 8 now or wait for the potential of 
> buying the new iPhone SE/9?
>
> The advantage to the 8 is I believe it comes with iOS 12 and if you 
> find iOS 13 buggy you don't have to upgrade it.  also the storage size 
> on the 9 is rumored to be 64 and 128 same as the 8.  So if you want an
> 8 grab one now.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Dave
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 6:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Should I buy an Iphone 8 now or wait for the potential of 
> buying the new iPhone SE/9?
>
> Hi Joshua. I tend to put mine in my pocket. lol.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Should I buy an Iphone 8 now or wait for the potential of 
> buying the new iPhone SE/9?
>
> For me, my 8 is the perfect size.  I can easily put it in my pants 
> pocket and listen to a book with a pair of bluetooth headphones on.  I 
> hope the new iPhone 9 would have as much internal memory around 256 
> gigs like I got on my iPhone 8.  If I didn't download so many bard 
> books I'd have a lot more free space lol.
>
>> On 3/27/20, bentleyj1...@gmail.com <bentleyj1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It is my understanding that the current iPhone 8 has a 4.7 inch 
>> screen and is currently the smallest phone that Apple makes.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is also my understanding that the new iPhone SE or, 9, what ever 
>> it will be called, is the same size as the 8.
>>
>>
>>
>> I prefer a new phone so if I am correct, I will just wait.
>>
>>
>>
>> James B
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:49 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Should I buy an Iphone 8 now or wait for the potential 
>> of buying the new iPhone SE/9?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok, Do you realise that the 8 isn’t one of the smaller form factor 
>> phones like the SE1 is?
>>
>>
>>
>> Neither is the 9/ se2 I believe.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, 27 March 2020 10:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: Should I buy an Iphone 8 now or wait for the potential 
>> of buying the new iPhone SE/9?
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m looking for the smaller phone so I will wait and give Apple time 
>> to let us know what is going on with the new SE/9.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> James B
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:35 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: Should I buy an Iphone 8 now or wait for the potential 
>> of buying the new iPhone SE/9?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes I’d wait and see what happens,
>>
>>
>>
>> If you can’t wait then the xr or 11 would be the next choice from the
>> 9 /
>> se2 as the 8 is now coming up 2 years old.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, 27 March 2020 10:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: Should I buy an Iphone 8 now or wait for the potential 
>> of buying the new iPhone SE/9?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can wait six weeks.  Its just I wish Apple would let us know something.
>> I
>> can be patient.  Just wish Apple wouldn’t leave all of us in the dark.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know over a dozen people who are waiting for the new SE/9.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> James B
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>> Behalf Of Gordon
>> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:21 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Should I buy an Iphone 8 now or wait for the potential 
>> of buying the new iPhone SE/9?
>>
>>
>>
>> If I were in your position I would give it until the middle of May to 
>> see if there's any announcements about when this new phone might be 
>> available.
>> If
>> everything I've red is true, Apple might want to get this out there 
>> as soon as possible if they have projections of selling a certain 
>> amount of units by the end of the year.
>>
>> On 3/26/2020 10:55 PM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would love to buy the much talked about iPhone SE/9 if it is even 
>> still eventually coming out.
>>
>>
>>
>> But, I do not want to wait more than one to two months so I am also 
>> considering the regular iPhone 8.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, this leads me to 2 questions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know how much longer the new iPhone 8’s might still be 
>> available?
>>
>>
>>
>> Does any one know if the iPhone SE/9 will be out in a month or two.  
>> Or, has the SE been cancelled.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for any links or information.
>>
>>
>>
>> James B
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If you by it new it will come with iOS 12

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