lol.
Maria

> On 12 Apr 2020, at 6:02 pm, Dave <dave.beckett...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah. One goes up your arse, and the other goes in your mouth, lol.
>  
>  
>  
> From: Simon A Fogarty <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 1:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer
>  
> There is always rectal thermometers!
>  
> Does anyone know what the difference is between a Rectal thermometer and an 
> oral thermometer?
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, 12 April 2020 5:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer
>  
> Well, in the case of the no touch thermometers, I would not assume they are 
> not returnable, but of course, one who buys an item without checking first if 
> that item is returnable, takes a risk.
> I always check first before ordering anything online.
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> (Sent from my iPhone SE)
> C
>  
> 
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Robin Frost <robin...@outlook.com 
>> <mailto:robin...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I could be wrong but I somehow suspect that a thermometer might not be 
>> returnable being deemed a personal health item if not before this virus 
>> business then definitely afterwards.
>> And how lovely of Mary to help her friend that way though were it me I'd 
>> just let her keep the thermometer especially if it were an under the tongue 
>> one.
>> I have one of the talking infrared scanning ones. I got it ages ago from the 
>> Speak to Me Catalog. Not sure if they're even open let alone have stock but 
>> it's a neat thing that runs on 2 triple a batteries and can either be used 
>> in ear or on forehead.
>> Are all of the ones mentioned with apps under the tongue or scanning type 
>> ones? I'm frankly surprised the Exergen thermometer which is heavily 
>> advertised typically in Winter doesn't make a talking one or have an app 
>> linked thermometer.
>> Stay well and take good care everybody.
>> Robin
>>  
>> On 4/11/2020 12:49 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> Another thinking out loud, check to see if any of them have apps?
>>>  
>>> If you can get one from amazon, their return policy is quite good, so if 
>>> Seeing AI, or Voice Dream Scanner, couldn’t read the numbers and there was 
>>> no app, you could return it.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
>>> Oregon.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>> Of terrie...@twc.com <mailto:terrie...@twc.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 9:39 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer
>>>  
>>> Thanks, Richard. I wonder if Seeing AI or another app could read the 
>>> numbers on the digital display? I realize  you don’t know this, just 
>>> thinking out loud. Thanks for all that you share on this list. I appreciate 
>>> your knowledge and having the benefit of what you share.
>>> Terrie
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:59 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer
>>>  
>>> Well, you learn something every day.
>>> I’ve not heard of any that talk, but a quick check at Amazon got quite a 
>>> few ranging in price from $60ish to over $200.
>>> https://www.amazon.com/fda-approved-thermometer/s?k=fda+approved+thermometer
>>>  
>>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Ffda-approved-thermometer%2Fs%3Fk%3Dfda%2Bapproved%2Bthermometer&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb913abe8cde44963343c08d7de39ecb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637222212669095129&sdata=DwwDYZ1top%2FM3H9PF0IFxKCU0oazXUJ4tt%2FxEZ8nUog%3D&reserved=0>
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
>>> Oregon.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> terrie...@twc.com <mailto:terrie...@twc.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 8:51 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer
>>>  
>>> The kind of thermometer that does not touch the skin – forehead 
>>> thermometers that are held very slightly away from the forehead and scanned 
>>> across it.
>>> Thanks for all of this timely conversation about Bluetooth thermometers.
>>> Terrie
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer
>>>  
>>> I'm not sure what you mean by noncontact.
>>> But, anyone looking for a thermometer right now is just going to have to 
>>> keep looking until they find a supplier that still has some.
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>>  
>>> (Sent from my iPhone SE)
>>> C
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:37 AM, "terrie...@twc.com 
>>>> <mailto:terrie...@twc.com>" <terrie...@twc.com <mailto:terrie...@twc.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know of an accessible thermometer that is noncontact, that 
>>>> works with the iPhone, and that is available at this point?
>>>> Terrie 
>>>> Terlau
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:01 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer
>>>>  
>>>> Definitely not the time to share an under-the-tongue thermometer these 
>>>> days if multiple people in your household are using  it. I guess you could 
>>>> disinfect it each time somebody used it, but the contactless thermometers 
>>>> are definitely a better option right now and probably even if there 
>>>> weren’t a COVID-19 virus, after all, if you think you have a fever you 
>>>> probably want to avoid giving whatever causes it to anybody else. Of 
>>>> course that is not an issue if you are only 1 person who uses it.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:58 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer
>>>>  
>>>> Good to know.
>>>> The Kinsa is an under the tongue thermometer.  At least, the older model I 
>>>> have is and I’m pretty sure the Bluetooth one is as well.
>>>> I’ll keep this info for reference though.  Sounds excellent.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Richard
>>>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
>>>> Oregon.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 7:53 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: Accessible thermometer
>>>>  
>>>> There is also the “Thermo” from Nokia Health formerly Withings.
>>>> Below are links, first to the Withings website directly, then to the 
>>>> Canadian Apple, Amazon and Best Buy, after that the US Apple Store, 
>>>> Amazon, Best Buy and Walmart. Finally I put the links for the Thermo app 
>>>> on both the Canadian and US App Stores. The only problem is that it seems 
>>>> you are not going to be able to find one since they show as sold out 
>>>> everywhere or, in the case of Amazon, as “currently unavailable”, I guess 
>>>> that is probably a result of COVID-19.
>>>> I haven’t checked, but that may very well be the case for the Kinsa 
>>>> thermometer as well.
>>>> The Thermo, by the way, connects via WiFi, not Bluetooth. we have had ours 
>>>> for probably 3 years or a bit longer and I hadn’t used it until recently 
>>>> for about 2 years because just before Christmas 2017 was the only and last 
>>>> time I was sick with the flu and a fever in probably 10 years.
>>>> I did use it a bit more often recently just checking myself since I do 
>>>> have a retail store and am out in public every day. I realized I hadn’t 
>>>> even connected it yet to my iPhone 8 which I got a year and a half ago, 
>>>> but as before the connection was easy and quick and after signing in to 
>>>> the app with my user name and password my wife’s and my own profiles 
>>>> showed up and I could still see the measurements I took back in 2017.
>>>> The Thermo also has a display where a sighted person can instantly read 
>>>> the result, otherwise you can get the result inside the app about 15 or so 
>>>> seconds after the reading is complete.
>>>> There is one single button. You press it once and the thermometer makes a 
>>>> small vibration which means it’s ready. You have to be a little bit quick 
>>>> and have it ready pointing to the middle of your forehead about half an 
>>>> inch or so away from your skin since the measuring starts right away after 
>>>> the vibration and only lasts for about 4 or 5 seconds.
>>>> It reads the temperature contactless, as soon as it vibrates you smoothly 
>>>> move it from the middle of your forehead to your temple and stop there, 
>>>> the Thermo will vibrate twice to indicate it has finished the reading.
>>>> After you do this a few times you quickly get the hang of how fast you 
>>>> have to move it across your forehead so you get to your temple just before 
>>>> the second double vibration.
>>>> Even if you take a reading without the Thermo app open you soon get a 
>>>> notification that a new temperature reading is available, if you double 
>>>> tap on that notification the app opens and shows the profiles you have set 
>>>> up.
>>>> In our case it shows “Me” which is me and it shows “Jackie” which is my 
>>>> wife. Above that it then shows an unassigned reading, if you double tap on 
>>>> that Voiceover reads out the date, time and the temperature and you can 
>>>> then double tap on whichever profile you want to assign that reading to. 
>>>> It’s very accessible, very simple and reliable.
>>>> After you are done you just put on the soft silicon cover and the Thermo 
>>>> will turn itself off, if you want to take a second reading you just press 
>>>> the button again and repeat. You can take 2 or 3 readings one after 
>>>> another and if you do this you’ll see in the app that it will say that 
>>>> there are 2, 3 or however many readings you took which are unassigned, you 
>>>> can tap on each one and assign it or if they are all from yourself you can 
>>>> tap on “Select All” and assign them all to your profile at once. In the 
>>>> same way you can also delete any of the readings you took or delete them 
>>>> all at once.
>>>> Lastly, the Thermo app will transfer data to the Apple Health app if you 
>>>> set this up and give the permission.
>>>>  
>>>> OK, here now all the links:
>>>>  
>>>> Withings website 
>>>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.withings.com%2Fca%2Fen%2Fthermo&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb913abe8cde44963343c08d7de39ecb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637222212669095129&sdata=Hikn2ekgHCQrG%2BdT3Hj2z%2Fhi6McH1qCNGv6P%2FyeuaE4%3D&reserved=0>
>>>> $99.99 US, out of stock
>>>>  
>>>> Apple Store Canada 
>>>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apple.com%2Fca%2Fshop%2Fproduct%2FHMJL2ZM%2FA%2Fwithings-thermo-smart-temporal-thermometer&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb913abe8cde44963343c08d7de39ecb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637222212669105125&sdata=rGYB0RkCdxfcDX9TAmbggsDADW3JRgDJVpKxtOIr%2Bvw%3D&reserved=0>
>>>> $129.99, out of stock
>>>>  
>>>> Amazon Canada 
>>>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.ca%2FNokia-Thermo-Smart-Temporal-Thermometer%2Fdp%2FB072LQFK3R&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb913abe8cde44963343c08d7de39ecb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637222212669105125&sdata=vsqzjh9t8Op2DPCoDmnNt9VBUjmD6Nk3qaU2etk3DdY%3D&reserved=0>
>>>> Not currently available
>>>>  
>>>> Best Buy Canada 
>>>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestbuy.ca%2Fen-ca%2Fproduct%2Fwithings-thermo-smart-thermometer-white%2F10739014&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb913abe8cde44963343c08d7de39ecb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637222212669115118&sdata=eDnrbEPUmxiYU0FZawV00%2BWPKcuY3Dyt%2FEDN46XOfLs%3D&reserved=0>
>>>> $129.99, out of stock
>>>>  
>>>> Apple Store United States 
>>>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apple.com%2Fus%2Fshop%2Fproduct%2FHMJL2ZM%2FA%2Fwithings-thermo-smart-temporal-thermometer&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb913abe8cde44963343c08d7de39ecb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637222212669115118&sdata=kASDPYGNdJ%2B9QT20vaFSY8%2Blxhw2bZ9eqRI%2BTekrSAI%3D&reserved=0>
>>>> $99.99, out of stock
>>>>  
>>>> Amazon United States 
>>>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FWithings-3700546702464-Nokia-Smart-Thermometer%2Fdp%2FB071HNBXXQ&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb913abe8cde44963343c08d7de39ecb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637222212669125115&sdata=E3bHKmx68gxY9zIhbkSzf%2BSitXbvYgn8OF%2Bz9542Yis%3D&reserved=0>
>>>> Not currently available
>>>>  
>>>> Best Buy United States 
>>>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestbuy.com%2Fsite%2Fwithings-thermo-smart-temporal-thermometer%2F5869537.p%3FskuId%3D5869537&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb913abe8cde44963343c08d7de39ecb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637222212669125115&sdata=AAX3z2NFf%2B%2BqGFMojc9TpkNd0mbXVa%2BF7CU8ok1JMqY%3D&reserved=0>
>>>> $99.00, out of stock
>>>>  
>>>> Walmart United States 
>>>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.walmart.com%2Fip%2FNokia-Thermo-Smart-Temporal-Thermometer%2F228550790&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb913abe8cde44963343c08d7de39ecb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637222212669135109&sdata=uVz8Aylwphb0s7EzebQpdYqDtC2hN3quhA6FOr7K280%3D&reserved=0>
>>>> $88.11 – out of stock
>>>>  
>>>> Thermo App on the Canadian App Store 
>>>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fca%2Fapp%2Fwithings-thermo%2Fid1108420798&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb913abe8cde44963343c08d7de39ecb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637222212669135109&sdata=Y%2Bf6iwL2mbeSO67jZccyWOiTGvpx6OhqFvTqkS%2BDSCE%3D&reserved=0>
>>>>  
>>>> Thermo App on the US App Store 
>>>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fwithings-thermo%2Fid1108420798&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb913abe8cde44963343c08d7de39ecb0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637222212669145101&sdata=%2BfDVT4bj6dCDq%2B4rfPNtJYVdhzWw6PpxH9s3xX7NNnY%3D&reserved=0>
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 10:39 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Accessible thermometer
>>>>  
>>>> Yes. Kinsa has a bluetooth model.
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>>  
>>>> (Sent from my iPhone SE)
>>>> C
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2020, at 9:45 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think there was a fairly extensive discussion recently, probably on 
>>>>> this list, about accessible thermometers. I have one, so I did not pay 
>>>>> very much attention. A friend of mine unfortunately got the virus. So I 
>>>>> lent her my thermometer, since she lives alone and didn’t have a talking 
>>>>> thermometer. So now I am on the hunt for an accessible one. I think at 
>>>>> some point richard had mentioned a Kinsey or Kenzie something like that, 
>>>>> that was supposed to be accessible. But I can’t remember the spelling. I 
>>>>> thought I had the app on my phone, but can’t find it. Any ideas?
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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