At this point, I'd say call Apple Accessibility.
You'll get better answers more quickly.
I'm assuming the same, but I had used both iCloud and computer backups; and so 
I'll defer to the experts.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Deidre 
Muccio
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 6:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up new iPhone SE 2020

This may be   Astupid question, but I guess I need to ask it
I’ve never used iCloud to back up my phone’s. I use iTunes. So if I were to do 
this transfer from Phone to Phone I assume I need to have my iCloud back up 
drive on as well as have backed up the phone with iCloud as well. I mean I can 
do that that’s not a problem. Deidre


> On Apr 25, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Well, I cannot help with the positioning of the phone for the image they 
> offer, but the manual method worked fine, and that button is just beyond 
> where the position the phone instructions are and I got to it by just 
> flicking right.
> The phones just need to be near each other.
> The message popped up when they were probably a foot apart.
> Yes, I had set up the wifi, which I assume is necessary, though bluetooth 
> being on is likely the most important.
> The Logitech k480 is a full sized keyboard minus the number pad. There are a 
> lot of VoiceOver keyboard commands, but they work great.
> I have a document that covers them and a document with the keyboard commands 
> and the gestures in tables to help with connecting which keyboard commands 
> equal the gestures.
> They are on my website. 
> https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C9c63c6c87af44a717e6d08d7e9197d08%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637234167983427051&amp;sdata=h99YNYjSJNWbN8LN5sImCsDoF43hQAtpVkBWq3604VQ%3D&amp;reserved=0
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> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Sent from the iPhone SE 2020
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:36 AM, Deidre Muccio <deidreandlou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Richard Well that sounds cool. I might try that too. And I don’t have 
>> anywhere near 200 apps on my phone. Can you say more about how I would 
>> position the two phones near one another that would work well? The one thing 
>> that stood out in what you wrote here that is different from what I was told 
>> by someone at Apple Accessibility, is that they said I needed to do the set 
>> up with the Sim card in the new phone. You did it all without the Sim card 
>> in the phone which is what I assumed I would be able to do if I wanted.  you 
>> must’ve had to plug in your Wi-Fi info to activate the phone correct?
>> Can I assume that the Logitech keyboard you referring to is a full-size 
>> keyboard? How different on the commands one needs to learn to use that with 
>> an iPhone andvoice dream writer? I’m ready to get rid of my old computer.
>> 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Gordon <gor...@gordonradio.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Congratulations on your new purchase. This phone is sounding better every 
>>> day. Please come back here in a few days and let us know how the battery 
>>> life is on this device. I wouldn't even begin to pay attention to battery 
>>> life until Monday as the phone does things under the hood during the first 
>>> few days that will consume more battery than usual. But I'm curious to see 
>>> if this phone offers better battery life compared to the iPhone 8.
>>> 
>>>>> On 4/24/2020 8:25 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> I won't bore you with all the details of today's saga, but after I turned 
>>>> on the new phone and triple tapped the home button, VoiceOver came on and 
>>>> I was able to continue the setup.
>>>> When I got to the option to set it up by placing the old phone near it, I 
>>>> decided to try that.
>>>> I couldn't get the image focused, but there was a manual option.
>>>> Picking that, gave me a 6 digit number to enter and I was off and running.
>>>> Now, I have too many apps, well, less than 200; but still a lot of apps.
>>>> I have over 12000 songs.
>>>> Previously, when restore a backup on my computer, the music alone could 
>>>> take several hours.
>>>> Well, this method took less than an hour.
>>>> Some apps were still downloading after it was complete wiht the transfer, 
>>>> but i was able to go ahead and deal with other settings.
>>>> I paired it with my Logitech K480 keyboard which is what I am typing this 
>>>> on.
>>>> I put in the old SIM card and can call, and receive calls, etc.
>>>> All my Email accounts were there with all the messages.
>>>> Text messages are there.
>>>> So, this is pretty slick.
>>>> The phone sounds a lot better than the previous model.
>>>> That's all for now.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
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